Episode Title: The Late For Changeover Show 7 Aug 2024
Date: Aug 6, 2024
The Porters will lock down, so you might as well go get donuts, because you will be late for changeover. Your weekly space news and variety show. I’m your host Marty Smith, and I’m joined by Mr. History, Eric Perron.
What’s going on troops? Our little mule Juanito Lopez. And our favorite broad with a heat wave on a mondragon. Bring you the latest headlines and updates pertinent to all guardians and to the other lower branches as well.
So take your seats, get them forward and have a laugh as we present late for changeover. Hey, glowing or something. Well, I couldn’t say can.
Maybe heat wave meant like hot sauce. You know, maybe you were. Stop start.
Keep that penalty. Keep it spicy. That’s what that’s what I meant by that.
A broad with a spicy wave. No, that sounds even worse. Stop stop while you’re ahead, Marty.
Jake and ears. Yep. All right.
And our man in the closet Jake Wall. There’s a finally back in action. That’s good, man.
That’s good. It’s good to see everyone. I got a great show.
Plan to entertain you today, I hope. With a little bit of input from you guys. So everybody doing alright? Everybody good? We got a full show tonight.
Jake’s back from from the Pacific Northwest flu. The state of beavers. Go bees.
Juan, when do you start your barber school? I got one more week with you guys. So the weekend the 19th, right? I don’t want your daughter. When’s your daughter supposed to come back in less than an hour, right? So correct.
She hadn’t left yet, so. When did the time start? Yeah, is she on the clock or does it? That’s right. Or does the time start when she changes shorts? And if she changes and she’s just like, bye, Mom.
I’ll see you later. Everyone wait. You just hear the door slab.
She probably doesn’t have a. I love Air Force Tattoo in the small of her back. Yeah, with a heart. Oh, there you go.
Yeah, my dad, my dad, my parents were pretty strict. My sisters used to leave school all dressed up and then they’ll go to the locker rooms and they’ll change into whatever teenagers were back in the late 90s. My mom never found out and.
But my brother was the jelly type, so he would like see them like you better go back and change and blah, blah, blah. He was. I think really.
Oh, yeah. Well, from interviewing Anna, I think Anna was the troublemaker, but her older sister was the one trying to keep things together. Am I right on that? That’s factual.
I had a rebellious streak to me. Did she get mad at you? Dammit, huh? Stop doing that. They said you can’t do that.
You can’t do that. Shut up. They’re not going to know.
There’s a rebel amongst us. There is a rebel. Look at that.
She had a full career, even became an officer of the United States Air Force. You could see all that with the interaction with your daughter of it’s an hour. You better be home quick and change.
Yeah, right. You can see the fact that you were a deviant back at her exact age and you knew what she was going to be doing. She’s like, damn, mom is so strict.
They’re like, she wasn’t. She was a rule breaker. Yeah, that’s why she’s trying to hide it.
My daughter’s like your sister who changed her clothing. That’s fair. Oh, yeah.
Thanks for mother. We never find out what she’s doing. She admits it.
Oh, yeah, I did that. Sorry. That’s for permission.
You guys been following the Olympics at all? Of course. Yeah, I try to follow some of it. It’s just, you know, the recaps are pretty good.
You get four or five minute recaps on YouTube or from NBC or whatever they are. But trying to watch them live is just, you know, I’m a big fan of the track and field that goes quick. 100 to 100 to 15.
I am too. I watched the girl from the Netherlands come back on that relay and beat the whole field. I was like, wow, look at her kick, man.
That was amazing. And I watched the girl from girl, the woman from Ukraine set the, I think she was Ukraine who set the high jump world record. Yeah, I zoomed in a couple of times on the French pole vault.
So that’s good. Well, you wanted to see and clear the bar, of course. Well, see, I’m a big fan of if he were certain that he’d be fine.
Oh, I know what you’re talking about now. The guy’s packing and didn’t get a medal. Well, you know, it’s offered a porno job.
Is there any other better way to go? Oh, I didn’t met on there like, oh, why? What happened? You fucked up? He’s like, here’s the picture. I got it laminated. Don’t blame him.
Blame his parents. Oh, yeah. Just salute him.
Curse you guys for this wonderful package. We’re tighter shorts. Person to lose.
What are they called? Well, we’ve had some military members medal. So and they’re kind of a, you know, they weren’t one was gold. I think one was silver one was brought.
So let’s do a little recap. Right. First one is Army Sergeant.
I think it’s Sagan. S-A-G-E-N. Madelena.
So she won the silver medal in the women’s 50 meter rifle three position competition. Have you ever watched it? I’ve never watched it. Right.
They almost look like pellet guns. Yeah. I think it’s air rifle, but it’s no gun that you’ll ever buy because it’s so customized and there’s stickers on it.
They wear the weirdo glasses and their shooting stances don’t make any sense. So here’s Sergeant Madelena. She won the silver and it came down to the last shot.
So here’s a here’s a clip of that. Madelena within seven tenths of a point from the top into our final shot. Why the fuck yes.
In this event, but not since rain, captured gold in 2012 stance and stuff. It’s weird. Look at that.
It almost looks like this shot to determine an Olympic champion. Like she’s waiting, but that’s her address to the rifle. That’s just different.
And 10.8 and a 10.1. Madelena comes up short, but still gets the silver. The first medal for the U.S. in the shooting competition in Paris. That was a great shot.
Amazing shot. And like I said, why do they flash this jacket thing? It looks like. I don’t know.
It looks like a superhero. Pants too. That’s the whole joke about the Turkish guy, though.
He rolls out in a freaking Olympic T-shirt with his hand in his pocket. That is very, very cool that he shoots that way. Yeah, it’s very cool to watch him do that.
The other teammates got a leather jacket, a freaking straight jacket support. Yeah, he comes out like painter’s pants with his hands in his pocket. I got this.
I’m going to do this. They’re making me do it. I’m going to do it my way.
So she won the silver. So good. I was trying to find out what unit she was assigned to, but it was just all about her Olympics.
And I think she’s I think she’s essentially assigned to like the world class athlete thing. And she’s just she just shoots all the time. Yeah, she’s army.
So the next one is an army captain, Sammy Sullivan. So she helped the U.S. women’s rugby sevens. Yeah.
Win the bronze medal. Do you see that play? Because I’m going to show you that play. So now play football in the Olympics.
We beat the Aussies for the bronze. Yeah, we got the bronze on this. Now, Captain Sullivan wasn’t in on this play.
But if you look at her, she is just chiseled man. She is she’s a picture of like I would want to F with her. You might call her up to be a ranger.
You know, so here’s that last play for the rugby sevens. Steph Rivera gets there in time. They’re going to have to go the distance here.
If they’re going to take this one to Golden Point. Alona Mark. Ramsey.
She’s just a bulldozer. Look at that. Cedric.
I’m out of here. Cedric’s away. Cedric up over the 50, the 40.
She’s going to take it away. Cedric for the U.S.A. And I am all beside myself right now. It is level at 12 apiece.
And time ran out as her as she made that run. There’s Captain Sullivan. Yeah, that’s Sullivan.
The team USA. Yes, Sammy. We got you.
This is going to be the easier kick right down the middle. That’s it. Cedric with the conversion and team USA make history in Paris.
Oh my god. U.S.A. U.S.A. Alona Mark, the hands in the air. They’ve done what no other American rugby team.
That’s amazing. In sevens have ever done before. A hundred years after the men’s 15-a-side team won the gold medal in this city against France in 1924.
2024, team USA women have won the gold at the bronze medal. Hard for Australia to go home. Getting a little bit excited.
History made by team USA. They were 15 seconds away from winning. We invented rugby for Christ sakes.
We didn’t invent rugby. I’m talking about the Austrians in the US. Oh yeah, we’re so bad at European sports.
It’s just like amazing whenever we do something or like… Yeah, we’re good at that. We have a team that does that. Meanwhile, South American soccer teams are shooting guys for getting third place.
You know, they’re like, ah, fucking third place. Call in the Turk. Okay, next is… He’s a former army sergeant, Vincent Hancock, and he won the gold medal in skeet shooting.
This is pretty cool. So, the video starts with the guy that is his student who was basically first until he shot. He’s calling the white feather.
Oh, the white feather. You don’t know. You’re not getting that, you know.
Is this some like 50s movie that you’re bringing up again? No, man. Hancock was a Vietnam sniper, and he was called the white feather. Very good, Mr. History.
Very good. I didn’t know that. I thought you’re pulling out some like Spaghetti Western or something.
Oh, man. It’s a big deal. That dude was a hell of a shooter back in the day.
Well, not like Vincent Hancock. Let me show you. You are competing head to head to determine who will take home gold.
These two shooters train with each other all the time. So, this is not an uncomfortable position for them, which is a good thing, because this is what they do when they train. They train side by side, so they know each other’s rhythm.
They know each other’s cadence. They know each other’s rhythm. Prince said, if you told me 10 years ago when I started shooting, I would be here in Paris competing.
I would have laughed in your face. He missed one. The only way you know they hit him is this pink puff.
That could just be nerves, but I’m… Look how they hold their gun. It’s a girl. No, it’s not a girl.
That’s a guy. I know the pink. History or defeat.
It’s not a girl’s middle name. It covers so well, and he finishes… It’s a pink powder. A pink puff.
It’s 10 every year. No, it’s a girl. Frog with a pink puff.
Can Hancock finish the job? You know what I’m saying, Jay. I get you. Very cool.
And they’re playing music in the background, like you’re at a hotel. It is interesting that it comes up to the ready after they launch. Right, right.
So this dude’s won four, the last four Olympic gold medals for speech shooting. Incredible. And he’s like 35.
So… He becomes the fourth American, the first shooter, and the sixth athlete in Olympic history to win four gold medals in a single event. He started in his 20s. Four in a row.
That’s crazy. Well, let’s switch from the Olympics because those are the three military people they found. I mean, they had, I think, 10 military or former military competing.
I think those are the ones that won medals. But when we did that Freedom Hunters thing, did any of us get four in a row? Oh, no, no, no. We got… No, we didn’t even get… Accumulate four at one station, but no.
And it’s just weird that they hold their… They’re not even holding them up at the ready. They’re holding them down, and then they pop them. That’s all you do is shoot them.
I didn’t honestly see them before they got hit. The pink puff. I saw the puff, but… Well, let’s shift gears a little bit and let’s go to some military women of note.
So this last weekend was a Miss USA pageant. And the winner of Miss USA was Miss Michigan, who was also a second lieutenant and a West Point honor grad. Her name was Alma Cooper.
She was crowned on Sunday the 4th. So here’s an interview after she was crowned. And you’re forging a path not only in pageantry, but also in the military, being an officer in the military.
So being that… Look at that smile. No way, you guys. That transcends to this.
Well, then the shift weirdies between the two. I mean, I think… Oh, I could pull this ship, brother. Depends on the flight suit.
I’ve always says, you know, someone can have more things than you, have more money than you, but never let someone outwork you. And I think that calling my… You know, my dad’s quote… Something other than Air Force. He was prior military as well.
He was a… He retired after 20 years of service. So to me… He was a tanker. Just adding him as a role model means so much.
And I also think about the way that he has inspired me and encouraged me when I was at West Point. I was challenged, you know, I was forged by the flame. And to me, being in that environment and really testing my character is what I think has truly led to me being in this opportunity.
I love that my dad was in the army too. So I understand that very, very well. She tried to glom on.
It’s like, I don’t care if your dad was in the army. So I mean, it was the Air Force lady that won. I know.
She was Miss Colorado. No, it was just… Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to downplay her.
She’s just a face, Jake. She’s not all 50 states plus Puerto Rico. All right.
Come on. I think she’s supposed to be at the 140th. Yeah.
She’s showing up there this week or something like that. So… But Alma Cooper, she was an honor grad in math. And then she’s going to Stanford for her master’s.
I think she got branched intel. But again, you’ll never see her do that job. You barely saw Eric do any scary forces because he was off.
Oh, here’s the soapbox. Bring out that soapbox, Marty. And lastly, because I interviewed her was Miss… Or Mrs. Kendra Helleson.
She’s Mrs. Texas. And they had the Mrs. USA pageant this last weekend. And she got second runner up.
And that’s her second from the right. That’s Kendra Helleson, Mrs. Texas. So she got second runner up in their pageant.
Remember, Eric, that was the one they could increase their standing if we donated to their charity. Way to go, guys. You didn’t even finish that.
So she’s Mrs. Texas. I see the next… Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Mrs. Southern Texas. Did you see that? I didn’t know they divided Texas.
Wow. Well, maybe there’s a lot of Texans. And you can’t show thai unless you win.
Everybody knows that rule. There’s no Mrs. Eastern Texas. There’s definitely not West Texas, for sure.
I’m from West Texas, fool! Is that you? Amen? Ow! Way to snuck on it, Jake. Oh, I throw it all in. You just got your junk hung up on the pole, too, pal.
Is Jake gonna be there? That was great. She called you fool. Mrs. San Angelo on a Mondragon.
I like the whole party. Let me see your… Yeah, here. No.
Because I got little hands. They don’t count. What do you mean? She’s a T-Rex.
I could barely lift my arm that night. Okay. Well, that went out the rails cold wind.
Let’s get to the news, shall we? All right. We finally got a Boeing Starliner update. They’re back.
Well, they’re 85 years old now. And they’re… I tell you, man, we could have done… You’re younger when you’re in space. So we’re older.
That’s right. Yeah, that’s right. We’re gonna come back and die.
But, man, we could have done a brilliant running skit. We just put a cockpit background. These guys playing Uno and like, are we fucking going home yet? And they’re like, no, not today.
And just guys walking in the background, looking at them all pissed off, like, left the lid off the peanut butter again. Goddamn. Whose turn is it to recycle the pee? Not me.
Do they sound like a hazardous… Like, I don’t know, some kind of thing saying, you may be stuck up there forever, bro. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that’s a good point.
They have to. They have to. You can’t sue Boeing if you happen to stay 50 days past the date.
Well… It’s been like two months now? Three months? Just time off. 50 days? Yeah, almost. Yeah, almost too much.
So, now this story is from Gizmodo. It’s got a lot of speculation, but I thought it would bring up some interesting points that we might talk about. NASA might delay the upcoming Crew-9 mission to return the stranded Starliner astronauts to Earth.
I remember they say they’re not stranded. Everybody kept… That’s the first thing out of everybody’s mouth. They’re not stranded.
We can bring them back today if we want to. Well, how come you haven’t? Because we don’t want to. We don’t want to.
The testing evaluation team at Boeing said they need to do a couple more tests just to make sure… They said they completed all the tests. But… Come on, seriously. This article does raise an interesting idea, and I want to get your reaction to it.
It’s been nearly two months since Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft arrived at the ISS for its first crew test flight. Despite several technical mishaps that have delayed Starliner to return to Earth, NASA has continuously insisted that the vehicle is capable of carrying the crew back. Recent reports, however, suggest the space agency is looking at other alternatives to bring us to astronauts home safely.
NASA officials are considering delaying the launch of SpaceX’s Crew-9 mission from August 18th to September 24th. Six weeks. And carrying two astronauts instead of four.
So they could bring the Starliner crew guys back. Their families are probably protesting outside of Boeing’s office. Well… The move would certainly signal the failure of Starliner’s first voyage to the ISS with astronauts on board, and confirm that despite NASA’s attempts to downplay the spacecraft’s glitches… Glitches, they call it a glitch.
Five helium leaks, they call it a glitch. It was not… Mild inconvenience. What do you call it when the window blows off on its way to the pad? That’s a glitch.
You know what, Marty? I don’t know if we jinxed this because even before it launched, we talked about it and we were like, well, I don’t know, Boeing. And… Yeah. What do you think the Boeing Christmas party is going to be like this year? I don’t know.
The execs are going to get a freaking bonus. Don’t even play it off. I think the party’s going to welcome everybody because the doors are going to be open, so it doesn’t matter, right? I mean, do you think at the Secret Santa, there’s just going to be a bunch of… People go buy a bunch of models of Starliner and they’re like, Da-ha! You got stuck with the Starliner.
Every boss has an open door party. Well, you got the Dreamliner, the jet. Regardless whether they want to know.
Who does that call that? Eleph, white elephant gift or whatever. And oh, you got the SpaceX. Oh, lucky you.
Or you’re making it home. If you take it to space on the Starliner, would you take it? You asked that last time. Shit, no, not now.
Me neither. I mean, they’re still alive, so it’s better than the Titanic sub, right? And they’re doing the white elephant and they’re like, I’m taking this Starliner model and I’m going to trade it for that pea suit over there because I want the pea suit. I’m going to drink my own pea.
Wow, NASA’s SpaceX crew night mission includes three NASA astronauts and one Ross Cosmos cosmonaut who are scheduled for a six-month duration stay on board the ISS. However, sources told Ours Technica, I think that’s a magazine, that there was a greater than a 50-50 chance astronauts Wilmore and William would need to fly back on a SpaceX Dragon spacecraft due to ongoing discussions regarding the viability of the Starliner spacecraft. So is SpaceX going to get up there and they’re like, yeah, you guys can come back with us, but we’re here for fucking six months.
So you’re going to have to wait. I mean, they’re not going to go up there and then come right back with them. Are they? Maybe.
I don’t know. It’s really, really. The pod up there, right? Well, yeah, they got it.
They got to disconnect something. I mean, obviously, SpaceX is going to undock and come back and then they’ll send the next crew up. But it’s the Uber space.
It’s kind of Uber space. Very good. They’re reading the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
I mean, that would be a great book right now. Well, sure. I mean, they’re going to read it three times before they get home.
The space Uber. Did you get the black? Or did you get just a regular space Uber? No, I got the black man. They’re coming up.
It’s amazing. They’re going. Yeah, it is.
There is a Tesla out in orbit. It goes on to Tesla far out there. That’s true.
They did that like last year, didn’t they? There’s an Uber out there. And it’s like, it’s economical. As of late last week, there was still no consensus among those responsible for making the decision with the main concern being that they are yet to identify the root cause of the thruster failure.
So that’s why they haven’t brought it back, right? That’s right. Because they haven’t brought it back. Yeah.
But imagine if you’re if you’re the four guys, right? Those queued up for the next SpaceX mission. And they’re like, guys, we got to catch it down to two. You let us know who it’s going to be.
Right. And they shut the door. Those four guys look at each other.
The Russians like I’m going. I’m not going back to Russia. They have to you guys.
Oh, my God. I mean, God, that would suck, man. I think we’re going to just draw straws.
Yeah, exactly. I know there’s a lot of speculation in an article and they’re drawing a lot of maybe unreasonable conclusions, but they still haven’t come back and they still haven’t announced a date for them coming back. I mean, I mean, obviously, the worst of the worst situation could be.
Yeah, we try to bring them back and something goes horribly wrong. And they don’t make it. I mean, I get that.
But if they have no confidence in that thing, what are they going to change now? You know what? I mean, it’s up there, right? It’s not like we can go wrench turn and add a couple more plates of atmosphere buffering against that thing. I mean, it’s not with the glitches. They have the law.
I really think they’re just going to have to bite the bullet and go, OK, we’ll go home with SpaceX and, you know, just send the pod down on its own. I’m surprised they haven’t set the pod down on their own. I wonder if they can remote like pilot it to get the right angle and all that shit.
I highly doubt they piloted themselves anymore. Honestly, you know, we all programmed SpaceX ones like a freaking iPad there. That’s right.
Because I think it was either earlier this year or last year, SpaceX sent like an all civilian crew and they flew the capsule completely from from the ground here. That’s cool. Yeah, because there’s a video.
Those guys all getting out and they’re like, yeah, but it’s like these guys aren’t pilots. They’re like scientists and stuff. They’re like, I don’t know what this thing is.
What’s this thing do? That’s like letting your car drive. You guys like smoking things. Please stop flicking things.
Remember what we said about buttons? No. Could you check your head? Buttons aren’t toys. It’s like letting your car drive hands free man.
Just let your car drive. Did they have that accident where the self driving car ran over somebody? Do you read that lately? I think it was a Tesla. How tall is this person? I’m scared for my life.
Obviously not tall enough for the car to sense that he was there. I’m scared of those. Those Chevy’s or those GMC’s.
They’re freaking. Yeah, they’re big. They’re freaking.
From and comes up to here on me. I’m like, you can’t see anybody below five foot. No, like guys.
Absolutely not. My life is over. Have you not seen those? Those new GMC’s.
They’re freaking huge. Are they tall or are they just a whole nother model? And the grill is honestly up to my freaking mid bicep at least. I guess I haven’t seen.
Well, which are they? Yeah, they loaded up and they loaded for off-road and that’s what they know. No, no, they’re just. Those are the stock ones.
They’re the ugliest damn things I’ve ever seen. They’re just ridiculous. Yeah.
OK, well, I want to get your opinion. Let’s see how. I just curious.
It’s going to be curious with this group. I already know Eric’s opinion. Nay, right? That’s Eric’s opinion, but I want to get your opinion on this article from the Air Force Times.
So the Air Force rolls out quote unquote foundations courses for enlisted development. So this is coming. They’ve already been in development with this for a couple years.
The US Air Force’s newly launched foundations courses are meant to supplement development in the ranks during traditionally slower periods of an airman’s enlisted. I don’t know what that what they mean by that. Just like you’re not going to get probably is waiting for like the time to gain to senior and leadership.
I guess, I guess, right? It’s the Air Force’s higher RPM needs. So Eric’s on board already. Good, good to know.
The course has reached full operational capability on July 19th following nine months of testing and training. According to the press release, the Thomas N Barnes Center for Enlisted Education developed the curriculum as part of the enlisted airmanship continuum, which is meant to guide service member development. Three types of foundation courses are available each with the goal of developing leadership and knowledge of strategic concepts.
Now I have an issue with that already. You’re going to teach an E4 about strategic concepts and it’ll be like I’m going to be late. I’ll bring donuts tomorrow because I know I’m going to get a tattoo.
Can I just get a tattoo? Yeah, piercing a tattoo. I had to spend a lot of time getting my beard. Like, you know, I saw a guy walking out of Buckley today, white guy with the goatee and then like the chin strap, you know, going up the chin.
I was like, oh, that’s a really unique shaving layer. It’s like I’m good right here, but right here I get bumps. So I had to have just the chin strap.
And I was active duty. Oh yeah. Oh my God.
Come on, man. But you’re never. But to be fair, Marty, you in your from what I’ve seen you actually approving, no one gets any extracurricular anything and no one gets any additional training at all.
What will bitch about training levels? Yeah. And broad minded warriors. And I know it makes no sense.
It doesn’t. It does make no sense. I’m like, now that I feel strongly about both.
I believe it was hypocritical. So I think it is. I will tell you, I agree.
I will tell you, Marty, when I talk to a lot of the guardians, even on the on the reserve side, the airmen, you’ve got to start talking to guardians. That’s just bad juju for you. Well, I mean, it’s that the training.
So there’s a lot of things that’s happened in the last 10, 15 years, right? So I know when I went to space training, I got to the unit. They made me read doctrine. They made me read all this other stuff as I why the fuck do I need to know this? But it’s very important.
And it gave me a foundation. They don’t do that anymore. They don’t read doctrine.
They don’t they don’t care about any of that shit. So it’s like you talk to them and they’re really there to get trained to do a job. And that’s it.
They don’t know any of the bigger picture stuff. And I think that’s very important tonight. I get you, but I would rather.
I would rather you learn how to navigate an airman who doesn’t like you. But you need him to work, right? I’d rather you learn how to do that than to learn how to strategically plan a bombing mission over the Ukraine. No, I just agree with you.
I’m with the one. I’m just saying I would rather you and I mean, you need assets on target regardless of your doing space regardless of your doing cyber. I didn’t say weapons.
I’m sorry assets on target. And you’re only going to learn that through mission planning through strategic thinking. Well, and I want that the person next to me to think the same way.
Now I can tell him how to come in the satellite and give him a checklist. But Jake, Jake, let’s role play real quick. Alright, you know.
I was one dude. Let’s I think I think a majority of the problem with our force right now is the fact that we don’t have any long training process. Everybody’s like bodies on the ops floor right now.
Yeah, that’s not the fix to the problem. The problem is you want to do the near-term mission on the ops floor. Yeah, right.
You want knowledgeable like we like one said we had to learn all the docking doctrine. We had to we couldn’t even think about taking our evals which were stressful as shit. Right.
Until we were even on the floor for four months or four weeks or whatever, you know, we were on the floor pulling multiple shifts whether we were ready or not. They were like we’re not even looking at your paperwork yet. You don’t have anything.
You think you’re ready or not. And that and that mentality away from that knowledgeable operator is what I think is a big problem of what’s causing our morale issues. What’s causing our crew force issues? What’s causing that? There’s no prestige in being an operator right now.
I’ll tell you, Jay, now that you’re bringing that up, you know, Doug, Doug Romming, Mr. DSP. I will tell you like he used to have these lessons like why the hell am I learning this? I’ll tell you it made me a better operator. I knew that weapon system as a mission operator.
I didn’t have to know TTMC or ground or how that information came down from seller. But they taught us all that because if it OK, I’m with you on that. I get you on that, right? I mean, it’s like learning the whole security forces picture.
It’s us learning the whole sibbers picture. I get that. But then when you start talking doctrine at the CG level.
Ask how many of those operators know the history of OPIR. Let’s talk about missile warning. That’s why we have OPIR.
They don’t know that. I am with that. I am all about it.
When you know the history, you can also start pulling the doctor and why we’re there. And that’s right. Yeah.
Well, you got to revert it back to this enlisted development. This foundation course. That’s not what we’re talking about here.
Well, so now let’s talk about mentorship and leadership. So something does bother me about that. Not everyone’s a leader.
That does bother me. And I think that like there should be different vectors. I think it’s okay to have your workers and the people that use want to use the work for work.
And I think it’s okay to have the people be vectors for leadership. And I think you could pick those apart sometimes. Sometimes there you have the people that kiss ass and you they’re not great leaders.
I get that. But it’s like the only thing out of great leader. But we’re going to give you chief anyway.
And but I just think those foundations should come from the senior NCOs. And the NCOs. I agree.
And should come from the units. If that’s right, I do agree. But they still need some reading material though.
And they’re not to stop raising your hand. Just yell. They’re not going to do it unless you actually make it as a requirement.
Unfortunately, that’s where we’re at right now. And that’s all very good. Are we talking about weapon system doctrine? Are we talking about? Yes, doctrine period leadership.
Development doctrine. Well, it doesn’t specify. And that’s what I was trying to get some specifics about what they were they were looking at, right? It didn’t really say that.
Eric, it’s not that hard. It is. It is.
It depends on how you have your camera set up on your things. This is from an angle. It’s going back.
And speak to me. Sorry, doctor. Do you believe the Air Force rolls out foundation courses for enlisted development fills the need of what one was just talking about? It’s hard to say.
Now fair, but it’s hard to say because I’m not sure how what the content is. It didn’t really get into that. And that’s where I have an issue with it.
Sounds like some new career development. I know, but let me read this real quick. The three types of foundation courses are available each with goal of developing leadership and knowledge of strategic concept.
There’s one course for junior enlisted Airmen, one for non-coms and one for senior NCOs. The foundation’s courses which are each five days long. So we’re not losing the person for a month or something like that.
We’ll replace base level professional seminars. Where were those? In five days. Yeah, yeah, and we’ll be hosted at every installation operated by the service.
The courses will also serve. Here’s my big issue with this. The courses will also serve as prerequisites for existing schools such as ALS and NCO academies, which Airmen undergo to successfully rise through the ranks.
All they did, they formalized that NCO enhancement force. That’s all they did. Yeah, a requirement.
Now they did, they formalized it. But now what they’re going to do, they’re going to make that a prerequisite. That’s where I have an issue.
It’s like, oh, they’re supposed to just make you better. It was already there. But it’s the moment I’m ready for ALS and they’re like, have you gone through the foundations course yet? Like, no, but even even you’re not going to ALS.
Even when you got selected to the schools on base and say, hey, we need you to go to the enhancement course before you go there. Oh, you haven’t taken that. Like, so it was, it was, it was.
Right, as soon as they make it and it will, it will turn. Look at what happened with space 300. Okay, now, Eric, space 300 was this course that was like, oh, very haughty that you can get into space 300.
And it was mostly for the officers. You know how many they had four classes a year? You know how many enlisted slots they had four. You know what the reserve command did? They’re like, oh, let’s make this mandatory to get to senior NCO with four slots per quarter.
I took it and they put me next to like that flight chief. Every single time I was one of four token enlisted and they put the enlisted right next to the officer flight chief. And I insisted on being called your token by by my foot.
I was like, Well, once again, you guys you’ve all made my argument about space and guardians. Let me show you do. Let me show you this.
Let me show you this real quick. And this is this is from Air and Space Forces magazine. So this is the kind of the model of the airman enlisted airmanship continuum.
The dark purple, I guess, is the foundation courses on where they should kind of fall. All the enhancement courses. That’s how they are.
That’s all they are. You’re right. Formalizing that.
Those are the areas where the enlisted ranks get the most jaded and disgruntled. So that’s where they’re trying to put them in there in that area. How long was it for you to get through tech school before you went to ALS? Who are you asking? Any of you because I didn’t have to.
Well, I was in the army during that time. So it was like a mile on my three year mark. So by the time I was done with textbook, that was like three or four, right? Yeah, okay.
Do you remember between ALS and NCOA? Yeah. How many? I do remember that. And I remember taking that NCO enhancement course at Vandenberg.
Oh, yes. Yeah. And then I went to NCOA courses.
Yeah. Well, so look, bottom line, all I was is a whole bunch of senior. Senior NCO is like, you know what’s a good idea? Because we’re going to do this entitlement course because it’s going to make I led this course and enhance 100 NCOs on the base.
And now I get promoted to chief. That’s all I was. Give me a bullet.
But really, to be honest with you, if those senior NCOs were effective at their units and taught their NCOs what they need to be taught, you don’t have any for these courses. If they did their jobs, what they’re supposed to do by mentoring their people. So, but you know what? Now it’s mandatory because unfortunately, we, we, so I’m saying the Air Force has failed to actually develop failures and hold them accountable to mentor their people in their own units.
Can you see my mouse on the screen? But that arrow, say that again. What are the numbers at the top? One hundred, two hundred. I guess just no way to label it.
And are these online? Like, are they all online? Five day courses? Well, with the exception. I don’t know. I don’t think so.
I would imagine they pull. These are all in person. See, it’s interesting because Anna came from a whole different AFSC.
Yes. And they’re just like, oh, we’re not pulling you out because you’re too critical. So you don’t get to go to any school.
I was all online. It’s true. You pick correspondence, right? Which is an option.
You were so such a small career field. It’s so critical. They couldn’t afford to let you go to go away for a month, you know? I mean, the place would crash without you guys.
I mean, I don’t know. When you guys were, Jake, when you were retiring, thinking of Anna, you were enlisted. Mark, I mean, we’re on this.
But but like, I mean, I guess we always used the excuse to always be too busy to mentor people. And that always bothered me. Yes.
Well, I don’t ever think I did. I don’t ever think that mentoring was done properly in the Air Force. At least in the space.
I don’t know. Maybe, Eric, maybe that was different for you. I think it was in weapons.
There was a big difference. And it could have been. It might have just been space.
You’re right. You might have just been. I think Marty, though, in weapons, I was assigned like day in, day out.
I was assigned to my NCO. Like he was my crew chief. Like he saw you every day.
One man. Every single day he saw me and he would be like, all right, how are you doing on your CDCs? How are you doing on this? And I had to redo my CDCs when I came over to space. And it was literally like, who’s your supervisor? And the orderly room handed me handed me my CDCs.
And they’re like, you know how to do this. And it was like way different. I think each career field rooms a different leader.
Very much so. Yeah, that’s a good point. Yeah, sure, sure.
We want diversity. We want people asking questions, whatever. But in like security forces, you know, maintenance.
You don’t want people doing that. We don’t want to see in those different. But you know where I think I got lucky.
So coming in as an Airman and you’re talking about back into that a lot of the NCOs and senior NCOs, they were cross trainings. They were maintainers. Their security forces, they were in their mentorship was hands on like, hey, Lopez, let me talk to you.
Let me do this, this and that. And as space started bringing their own, it’s like that became a last start. And then we got so PC, guys, oh, we’re going to do paper.
We’re going to do that. And you never really had a legit conversation with your supervisor because in the like the culture also change. So like, I’ll tell you where sivers change.
Sivers change. I’m talking about that. No, no, no, but but I’ll just refer to sivers because you can tell the difference from when we were there to where it is now.
And the reason why it changed because sivers used to have you couldn’t you couldn’t go there unless you had a five level. That’s so we were getting no new Airmen. We were getting no new officers.
I know five level doesn’t apply to the officers, but all the lieutenants were going to the missile fields and then they wouldn’t have sivers. So basically you had a more mature that was there and it was a different field when they waved all that and they stopped making lieutenants go to the missile fields and then we’re flooded with all these officers. Now you have you have two, you know, you have one officer for every two enlisted.
So the ratios all screw for one and you gotta put an officer in charge of something. So they were almost doing NCO duties and the NCOs were getting there. They’re like, well, I guess I don’t have to do that shit and that is, you know, it was just and it just kind of rolled and then you got new brand new out of tech school guys and it just it changed the force over a few years.
It was really speaking of that security forces and maintainers. They have what two officers maybe in a squadron of like three to four hundred. So the NCOs have to be more involved.
You’re seeing you’re in the cops are usually one stepping up. I guess what I’m saying I did appreciate the fact that that many of my first supervisors they were cross trainees. They came with different experiences but they knew how to supervise.
They knew how to guide me through. They taught me how to Air Force and what to worry about and what to take care of. And I felt that when I became with those friends that I would take care of the people the way I was taken care of.
But not everybody got lucky like that. And then as you know, it changed like it’s like a lost art. That’s what I feel like.
It might be it might be specific to career fields, right? So I don’t want to say I think it’s very sports again. Yeah, but the space is so but now it’s its own space. But sometimes when you talk to Intel when you talk to a lot of the techy type of career fields it seems very similar that they had the same issues.
But I mean, I don’t know. I mean, it’s it. So I think it also boils down to not necessarily manual labor but tasks you absolutely have to get finished before it shifts done.
And so yeah, you were blunt about getting you. OK, we got 10 minutes. Where are you at with your CDCs? Where are you at with this mentality? Where are you at on this? You’re good.
Let’s get out there and get working. OK, we have a task. And then there’s none of that sense of urgency sense of task completion in the majority of space.
The majority of space is same job day in day out. There’s no real incentive to get done with what you’re doing. It’s not much of a more Yeah, there’s no end product.
There’s no real other than missile warning. But that that’s after 45 seconds and then you’re done. And that’s the end product.
And actually you’re doing your job if you’re just meeting standard. You’re just you can’t go above and you can’t go above and beyond the standard. It’s just dating the standard.
So that breeds a level of kind of lackadaisical mentality and in mentorship in and we’ll kind of get to it tomorrow. We got plenty of time. Don’t worry about it.
And then when the evals went away, like the hardcore evals were, oh, which way did you go? And the whole crew is like, we went left out this door. And then there’s one dumbass in the corner. Yeah, I went right out the door to this mother of all of them dead.
That was the dumbest email input. Either way, you were strategizing that you were describing that as a crew. You were building that like, okay, this guy’s I’m a rotter on this.
You’re building that camaraderie. That’s right. And it all went away with the stringent evaluation process.
And I will tell you this led to the lackadaisical mentality as a cop as a security force member. It’s totally from the immediate instance that you walk up to the armory and you pick up a live weapon. And they issue you a live ammunition.
Yeah, yeah. Your hand is being held all the way to the clearing barrel. So you can load the weapon properly or guard your loading the weapon property until you host.
And then you stand guard mouth where you have a senior NCO or an NCO junior NCO who is doing a quick inspection to make sure you were squared away. Random, stringent evaluations. Yeah, that you’re not what would happen if you failed one of those guard.
You were pulled. You were moved. You didn’t go to work today.
You will. And then I’m assuming verbally abused or freaking you were or maybe you got paperwork, right? Menial task to repetitively remember what was wrong. You know, it would certainly take a lot to remove you from guard mouth.
Now, if you were drunk or something like that, of course, you’re turning in your weapon immediately under supervision. Yeah, those kind of things. You were moved immediately.
So again, when you carry a live weapon every day, it’s a little different because you got to I mean, how many times would you guys hear cops shooting the clearing barrel? More times than it’s like, why did they do that? Yes, yes, but again, that’s why you had the barrel. Plus, you had a clearing barrel official who was supposed to be reviewing it. And if the weapon went off, he wasn’t doing his job either.
So yeah, no, but but yeah, I mean, I don’t know. I do feel just relaxing on a lot of things that weren’t relaxed on has really created a culture of just being relaxed. I don’t have to worry.
I’m gonna be the cool supervisor. I’m also scared to even get on their asses because I might get canceled too. Yeah, somebody’s going to complain about you.
I mean, when was it like, when was the last time you heard of like a supervisor just being a supervisor getting on somebody’s ass like, hey, fix this shit or you know, or else, right? But no, now it’s okay. I got to bring you in. I have to have a witness.
I’m gonna give you paperwork. And it has to be it’s just. And that’s how you get disputed.
What? It’s just not effective. It doesn’t seem genuine on like supervising somebody. And I think sometimes that’s also missing that.
That’s why people are getting out too. Yeah, well, maybe the foundation’s course will help. I don’t know.
Well, five days a day. Good call five days of days. That 20% is 80% going to be standardized and 20% is up to the base.
So they can tailor some of that course to what they want. Tailor one day. I’ll get off my box after this, but everything that Eric was talking about, Jake and stuff, like the people that stayed in after embracing the suck, I think became awesome leaders.
Not everyone, but many of them became awesome leaders and stuff. They learned a lot from those lessons and then they were able to like, okay, I’m a supervised people. This is why I’m applying it, right? So it’s just like it’s like to me, like those other old school ways filtered out a lot of people that didn’t want to stay in the military.
Okay, bye. And I know we’ve changed and I’m not trying to be crusty, but it’s just like there is still some effectiveness to that. So where can we meet in the middle for something like this? I just don’t know.
Would you stop that? I personally like the one day thing because then they can tailor it, especially the Space Force, they can tailor it towards what Juan was saying. That one day they can throw in the weapon system doctrine. Yeah, I would almost say it’s only going to be commanders issues, base commanders issues.
That’s the one day. But it would be nice to address the environment of your work environment, right? You know, how do we do this stuff? So I have a question. And prior enlisted, of course, and you became an officer.
How well did you use your NCOs? Did you rely on your senior NCOs to do the job? Or did you go, I am doing this job. I’m taking care of the business. Or did you put them to work like the hell they’re supposed to be? So it depends.
If you’re asking when I was enlisted, I depended on my NCOs. No, I was more lines of law. When you became an officer.
When I was an officer, I was then space. So it depends on the NCO. It really depends on the NCO.
If I could. If even if you had the correct rank that you should be depending on his ass anyway. Nope, nope.
No, I get the question. To be fair, I think honestly, the little bit that I saw her as the leadership. She had her go tos and we all had our go to.
And then there was those ones where you’re like, fuck, this is going to be work. But I have to give you this task. I know you’re going to.
You know, damn well, you are guilty of it, too. We’re all guilty of it. Of course, you certainly didn’t matter.
Rank, right? You’re like, this guy’s attack. This guy’s attack. But I know damn well, if I give it to this guy, he’s going to divvy it up and it’s going to be smooth.
Certainly a competency level. If I give it to this guy, it’s going to be like 40 questions. That’s going to worry.
Bullshit coming back. Well, I can’t do this now. I can’t possibly do this now because I’ve got this job.
Okay. Well, that’s true. Forget about it.
When I was when I was a superintendent, I had no, when I was a flight chief, I had a an element lead who eventually made chief. But he came up to me and was bitching about somebody who was in his element and how she never showed up. I can’t get her to show up.
I’m like, you’re telling me that you can’t get somebody who you’re in charge of that you can’t get her to show up on death. Yeah, pissing me off. I was like, yeah, that’s pissing me off.
You don’t see that. So, you know, it’s it’s difficult. But the one thing that we have the most is I had a tech surgeon come to me and she was like, hey, Mike True senior.
I mean, it’s disrespecting me. It’s not coming in time. This and that’s like, cool.
I looked at her. I was like, I was like, what time did you come in? So I always got here 10 minutes ago. Okay, and I was like, I’m not a clock watcher.
I’m one of those people like you get the job done. Do it right. I don’t care what time.
Oh, there was no anyways. So so she tells me is like, well, you know, I came out this time. This is like, I was like, all right, then you start coming in there.
You set the example. I was like, because if I go talk to them, yeah, I’m already overstepping your authority. So is that you take care of it? Because if I take care of it, I’m gonna take care of you.
Same thing. You’re going to turn. So you want me to recommend you.
Or do you want to take care of it and be the example? It’s up to you. I had you’re not listening to me. I had a CEO that actually told a major twice that she wasn’t going to do something for him.
And I was like, that is bullshit. So I got up because the major kept coming to me was like, I don’t know. She just keeps saying no.
Like she just, she won’t do it. She says you’re supposed to do it. And I was like, both of them are fine.
There’s no way that I was going to tell a major no twice and tell me as a captain that it’s my responsibility. Well, I went into her office. We shut the door.
I think one you might have been in there. I don’t know. But I was.
Was it one? Was it one? Damn it. Yes, ma’am. Sorry, I’m sorry, ma’am.
Whoa, no way. No, you don’t have that kind of power. You don’t tell a FGO no twice, not once twice.
And then say it’s my responsibility as a captain. Go space. Because I have access.
Well, oiled machine. Yeah, but that’s that’s the captain doing the right thing there. I’m not saying I’m not identifying the problem in the first place.
And NCO doesn’t know his role. Who can back mouth the officer? Are you kidding me? And then the bigger problem is that later in the day, I get called in by the OG commander who was her boss. Here it comes.
Saying that I was in the wrong. So I was like, Yup. What? That’s a huge problem.
I don’t know exactly who you’re talking about. You have no. In my first steps that I was like, I’m going to retire.
Because as soon as you have no cover top cover, it’s like, what the fuck am I doing? They undermine authority at every level. You know what’s funny about the Anna? Jake’s heard me go off on her too. Yeah, it’s great.
I think I even excused myself after you were like. The point that you got my text messages. That’s what we’re talking about.
Oh, I don’t know you’re talking. Either way, Marty. Remember when.
I remember when Precious was late and he was constantly late for a changeover. And I and I solved it like weapons. Yeah, exactly.
I solved it like a weapons. And yeah, right. I was like, fine.
You can’t be on time. You and I are here extra 15 minutes early every fucking day. And then he went to.
Oh, yeah. The crew. Yeah.
And they’re like, you can’t do that. You can’t just single him out. I was like, he’s singling himself out.
He’s the only one late. And I said, I was coming in 15 minutes early with him. And they’re like, you can’t do that.
And I said, well, we’re sorry. So I got scolded for that. And then I got scolded for the extra move of.
Hey weapon. Hey, all the crew mission side. All the crew of senior airmen.
And below DSOs. You’re all coming in extra 15 minutes early because of that guy right there. Nice.
The group. Honestly, I’m not. Singling them out.
Right, right, right. It’s supposed to be done. If you’re failing, we all fail.
He dropped the ball. So you all dropped the ball. And the biggest key is what Ana just said.
When you when you have when you realize you have no top cover. Yep. Yeah, amen.
Then you’re out there on an island and your ass is. Yeah, it’s supposed to man. So what happened to like nobody’s got my back.
I would happen to like blanket top cover. And then even if I disagreed with you, Marty, and let’s pretend like some weird world. You’re below me.
And I disagreed with you. I would agree with you at that moment in front of everybody. We’re good.
And then I’m like, hey, man. That was probably not the best way to do it. Maybe next time we’re going to do it, we’re going to let this play out for a little bit or reassess.
But there’s none of that. It’s just no, that’s a dumb decision. And they say it to your subordinate or the subordinates board it.
Just like with I’m like, well, there are two things. And I’ll wrap this up because we could go for another hour on it, right? But there are two things. There’s the lack of top cover.
And then there’s the, oh, I said something, but somebody heard that and went around and complained about it. And now it comes back down and like, hey, we heard you were disrespectful. I said, what are you talking about? Somebody complained about you.
And I’m like, the fucking anonymous complaint. So you get it from that way and you get it from now. They’re not protecting you as whatever your rank and status is.
That’s that’s what it’s. Yeah, if that person can’t come to my face and tell me what it’s both. It’s both of those situations.
If you’ve got that going on, it’s like, why are you putting me in charge? Because you just set me up to fail now. So I know one looking at your text. Yeah.
I ran into the text. I didn’t get that. I don’t know.
I don’t know if you you know that. I know exactly. Yeah, I was.
Nobody listens to us, but God forbid she hears this and then it becomes like this. Oh, that could be. We’d like to give a shit.
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That is nice. He’s going to be that picture via text. How much oil is on your body right there? All of it, all of it.
It was painted on by the way. He’s a mirror. He’s a mirror.
Is that a flathead scene only with baby oil? And he was smooth. Second place. No shit.
You got second in that competition. Glisten like silver. Second place.
Second runner. Bronze, bronze. Glisten’s like bronze.
There was way too much bronzing. I don’t even know if the stir story’s worth it. And the three shows, again, I got second.
All of them lost to the same guy each time. No shit. He had better glutes.
What was it? What was it? What was the body part that he excelled at? He had a smaller waist than I did, according to the judge. That’s a tough. That’s a tough one genetically to get around.
Small waist. Small waist. Bigger size.
I don’t know. We’ve got a lot of time. I don’t think we even need to do the spider story.
Let’s just. Do you want to do the spider story? Eric, go to the regal us with some U.S. So I got two of them for you, and they’re quick, but they’re very somber, but very always. You’re always bringing us.
In history was very sad. It truly was. There’s some fun times.
So the first one. This one’s tough, and it’s it’s hard, but I want to bring it up on August 6, 2011. Insurgent shot down a Chinook transport helicopter.
And oh, shit, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALs from team. That was August 6, August 6, 2011, man. The Tangey Valley located on the border between Afghanistan.
Wardak. Well, you guys all know the story there, so I’m not going to go, but no, no, go through it. I mean, people listen.
So OK, all right. So it was located along the border between Afghanistan’s Wardak and Logar provinces, some 80 miles southwest of Kabul. It’s remote inaccessible area known for its resistance to foreign invasion.
Of course, Alexander the Great suffered heavy troop losses there during his campaign. But in 2009, U.S. forces from the mouth division of the U.S. Army established a base in Tangey Valley. And again, so the bottom line here.
Under the cover of darkness on the night of 6 August 2011, a special ops team that included a group of U.S. Army Rangers began an assault on the Taliban column pound in the village of Ja’i Mecca in the Tangey Valley. The firefight at the house went on for at least two hours and the ground team called in reinforcements. Chinook CH-47 transport helicopter called, sign extortion 17 carrying 30 U.S. troops, seven Afghan commandos and Afghan civilian interpreter.
And the U.S. military dog approached the insurgents fired on the helicopter as they approached the insurgents fired on the helicopter and it crashed to the ground, killing all aboard. They were the QR, the quick reaction team coming down to help those guys. So terrible.
The attack on 6 August was the most devastating day in SEAL Team 6’s history as well as the single largest loss of life for U.S. forces since the war. Yeah, that’s big. Yeah, 38.
God bless man. Big one. That’s crazy.
The other one that was pretty substantial in history on August 6, 1945, boys and girls, the United States dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. What’s that happened, little boy? August 6. Uh, little boy was the first one. Yeah.
Was that on August 6 or was that fat man? It was fat man. And then on 9 August, the second bomb, which was little boy, was dropped on Nagasaki. The bombings led to Japan’s surrender, bringing it into World War II, which claimed the lives of 418,500 American civilians and soldiers, according to the National World War II Museum.
So pretty substantial. Of course, it opened up a serious can of whoop ass today that we deal with a nuclear threat continuously now, especially today. The rhetoric of our adversaries talking about using nukes is continuous.
You know, it’s funny. I remember, I think in like middle school or something like that, we covered that. Maybe it was junior high and they were like, hey, go home and ask your parents if they should have dropped the second one.
Yeah, I was like, okay. I go home and ask dad. Dad, do you think they should have dropped it? He’s like, fuck yeah, I got the war over.
It’s like, all right. Well, today, and I’m sure you guys have heard, a lot of people rethink the whole process of dropping the bomb. Right, right, right.
But going back and trying to second guess that now is ridiculous. It’s done. It happened.
I’m sure it was the last man and woman. Yeah, and the casualties of a Japanese beach landing would have been enormous. In World War II, we have lost so many men, I mean, millions for all nations.
So, probably best. Of course. Wow, Eric.
You got to come up with a happy day in history, like a victory, you know, something, some victory we did, right? I bet there’s a camel that was eaten. Eaten. Your happy day is killing a camel and eating it.
You loved. There he is. The camel.
So, Ana, that’s why that camel was up there. What was the camel’s name? It wasn’t reckless. Douglas the camel.
So, the South in the Civil War had a camel, Douglas the camel. Well, they were using camels for pack mules, like a pack mule. What was the battle? Do you remember the battle? It wasn’t Shiloh.
It was one of those major battles. A Union guy shot that damn camel. And he ended up eating him, because they were under siege and running out of food, and they ended up eating Douglas the camel.
He’s no reckless. Well, he wasn’t really working. He’s not a reckless.
No, he wasn’t reckless, the dog. That’s a good one to revisit. That’s a terrible one.
Maybe we should revisit that. Maybe we should redo it with some new animals. I don’t know.
What was the horse? Now that we’ve got Ana and Juan, we should do it. That was your horse, wasn’t it? We’ll bring some out. Yeah, I like that horse.
I don’t know. Maybe we’ll think of it. Okay, we had ended up.
Ana, your daughter, okay? I saw she came back. Oh my goodness. Oh, okay.
She’s not saying much. She’s not okay? We’re on mute. You went mute for a little while there.
This is drama. But I thought the guy was just a friend. No, it’s other friends.
It’s a 17-year-old drama. Yes. It’s entertaining.
Should I go out later, Mom? I want to go out later. It’s only 9.30. I want to go later. Yeah, it’s true.
It’s still summer. Yeah, jeez. Only squares stay home at 9.30 in the middle of August.
Friends don’t even go out to like 9.30. I’m like, oh my gosh. It’s like, I know. Right.
Right. Go to bed, children. Just like I did.
Lay back. At least pretend to go to bed and then sneak out. Like every respectable teenager.
I didn’t bother them with, can I go? And you’re stuck with this hesitation of like, it’s 9.30. All right, real quick. What’s your best sneak out story when you’re 16, 17, 18? Don’t put this on me. I got the back door.
You give your daughter ideas. My mom, no, no. My mom realized it locked the door, came back intoxicated.
Thought it would be smarter for me to try to sneak back in, but right up against that window is like a dryer. So each time I tried to like push myself in and like my head. Then I tried to do a handstand.
Either way, it was just a bad idea and very noisy. So my mom obviously got up and she opened the door. She was like, do you need help? And I was like, I’d like to come inside, please.
Mom, I think it was like an hour and a half long. Lecture of how irresponsible that is. Yeah, my dad locked the door on us.
And then he wouldn’t open the door until the morning. So we had to find a place to stay. I thought she was going to do that.
I was like, man, I’m stuck. I’m done. What do I do? Do I just sleep in the backyard? And there’s mosquitoes in West Texas.
We’re from mosquitoes. We want to go inside. Wow.
A dramatic event. I know. Way to go, Marty.
Well, I didn’t know it’d be so elaborate. That’s great. See, we’re getting to know our new team member here.
So there you go. Well, thank you for sharing that. I hope your daughter is okay.
No hickeys. So, Ana, you tell your daughter, do as I say, not as I do. She doesn’t know these stories.
I mean, imagine with us parents, we didn’t know. We barely knew. I mean, with our parents, we barely knew anything about them, right? And now it’s like our kids are going to be like, hey, you were just telling that story on that podcast.
And I think I’m going to be listening to this crap. I know. Even the people who are doing the podcast aren’t listening to this.
Well, then let’s end up you ungrateful sons of bitches. On behalf of all of us here, I’d like to thank you for listening today. Please like, share, subscribe, and let us know how we did in the comments and make sure next week that you are not late for changeover.
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He’s still he’s still receiving shipments of that in hopes that he will rekindle that. I know. It’s young.
I moved out from the paintbrush to we spray it now. Oh yeah. You don’t have to rub it in.
Two coats. Put the fan on. Just stand there for a little while.
It’s only preferred now. It’s not required. Would you let’s let’s say that you did it all up yourself, but you couldn’t get the underarms.
And so when you hit that double by and you had this big white landing strip underneath, was that would you be like losing points? Yeah. What it does is it takes away from the lighting. The lighting is designed.
You got to have the shadows to make. The striations and the rips. Marty.
Marty, I’ve got a confession to make. My roommate in Alaska was a he participated in these flexathons as well. Was he the one you had the picture of? That put the.
Oh, I actively painted his back on numerous occasions. That was a good roommate. Yeah, you are real good because I couldn’t even get my son to shave my back.
I said I’m not. I wasn’t shaving his back. I did get the foam brush, the foam brush, and I’d be like, yeah.
Really? That’s worse than shaving the back. You’re getting all artistic. Oh, no, that’s shaving.
No, you’re separated. They’ve been feeling so much more. It’s like shaving.
You’re right there, man. It’s a way in the Patreon. I’ll tell you some filth that went down.
Sponge was nothing. Have you ever had anybody shave your legs, Anna? Besides you? No. Yeah.
Would you? No. Your husband’s never done that? No, it’s too scary. What if I get nicked or something? Oh, yeah.
That’s a control issue. That’s a control issue. You’re absolutely right.
I’ll deal with my hair. You just got a product. Don’t help me on the way.
Maybe painting my back, maybe. Or tattooing your back with a… I love that Air Force tattoo. I had Teenie who has a built-in tan, right? She doesn’t know the importance of sunscreen and whiteness.
She doesn’t need it, right? Oh, she had such a lackadaisical approach to putting sunscreen on my back. I swear, I was like, You got fucked. Good.
The next day, I was fucked up. And she goes, Oh, this is serious. I was like, Yeah, my back.
Like, just freaking red stripes, like splotches and shit. She goes, Oh, you were serious about the sunscreen. They’re like, What are you… Yes! Of course, you just fingertip it.
I can’t go. Just go. We’re erupting my day.
Sunscreen, Shmunscreen. I’m over here with freaking boils and shit. Well, if you feel better, I’m going down to the beach.
So if you want to join us. This is you. This is your fault.
Right here. I’m on house arrest now. Because of you.
Crew, thanks for the week. And for all of you listening and watching. Thanks for watching and listening.
And we’ll see you next week. See you guys.