Episode Title: Late For Changeover 19 Mar 2025
Date: March 19, 2025
I was late because my wife was doing the taxes on our computers. Which is excuse number 78 for being late for changeover. The weekly face news of a variety show.
I’m your host Marty Smith and I’m joined by Mr. History, Eric Barat. Always on time. And our little mule is back.
Juanita, how many keys do I have to bring? Oh yeah, you gotta bring Donut. Oh yeah, that’s true. That’s true.
Our man in the closet, Jake Wall. I was late too, Eric. I’m sorry.
Because you were getting a massage with your underwear on. And our puzzle princess out of Mondragon. We’re here to bring you the latest headlines and updates pertinent to all guardians and to the lower branches as well.
So take your seats, get informed and have a laugh as we present late for changeover. Good on. It’s the wheel of fortune.
The price is right. Imagine how we would have been doing that for two years and people would be like, hey, that’s that group that chants together. I’d be like, yes, yes, that’s true.
So, wow, the weather’s pretty frightful outside. So I already was power. I’m hot spotting it through my phone because my brilliant Xfinity modem will take a day and a half to reset itself.
You know, I would change out of Xfinity, but I’ve had that Xfinity email for 20 plus years. I don’t even know where my email is now to change it. You know what I mean? Well, they provide my cell phone service too.
So it’s just, well, yeah, that’s what I mean. I wish I could just go down to something, but you can’t, you got to bundle everything with Xfinity. You still have your AOL.
I would change services, but I still have my email from 20 years ago. It’s called Gmail party. Yeah.
And you’re getting hacked by the Chinese Juanito. So that’s why you’re getting all the AOL. We’ve been hacked by everyone.
Hey, your toll charges are late. Please click on this from the 44 something number. OPM gave them all our stuff anyway.
We’re good. Yeah. All of our stuff.
I don’t know why they’re worried about Doze because they’ve breached the VA long ago. They got all those numbers, right? Yep. So how’s the week going? How’s the week going for everyone? Good.
Good. So today’s snowy weather. Well, yeah.
But at least you’re not working a striver with that walk. Imagine those midship guys going in tonight for that one. Right.
Right. That’s got to be a little lousy. So should we get to the news? Big space day today.
First story from space.com. Unfortunately for us, but fortunately for them, Butch and Sunny are back home. Even the dogs are excited to see them. Did you see that? That was really, really cool, man.
Yeah. The first astronauts to fly on board two different commercial spacecraft during a single mission every turn to Earth, splashing down with two of their international space station crewmates. Sunita, Sunny Williams, and Barry Butch Wilmore did not set out to make history other than being the first crew to launch on Boeing’s CST 100 star liner capsule.
Probably the death of Boeing space. But, you know, actually, as much as we’ve been dogging Boeing out for that star liner, they’re still flying that space plane. That’s a super secret space plane.
So, well, as far as you know, as far as, yeah, good point. Who knows what they’re flying after their capsule and counter propulsion issues, though, and NASA out of an abundance of caution decided to land it without them on board. Williams and Wilmore were reassigning SpaceX’s Crew Dragon to complete what ultimately extended from a 12 day to a nine and a half month mission.
Landing with Williams and Wilmore today were fellow NASA astronaut Nick Hague and Alex Sander Gorbunov, a cosmonaut with Russia’s Federal Corporation Roscosmos. Hagan Gorbunov launched on SpaceX’s Crew Dragon Freedom without two of their planned crew nine crewmates in September. That was September.
They went up there in September, man. I thought it was earlier than that. I thought it was like June.
No, no, no. The crew that went too short, right. They went up there in September.
Yeah. The four crew nine members splashed out safely at 557 p.m. Eastern time off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida, and the Gulf of America. Now, listen to this.
From there, the four. From there, the four will be flown by Gulfstream jet to Ellington Field in Houston per standard protocols. Hague, Gorbunov, Wilmore, and Williams will remain in crew quarters at NASA’s Johnson Space Center for several days before they are approved by flight surgeons to return to their homes.
So there was all that. There was a story a while ago about Sunny’s health. I don’t know how they came up, but they even though they were even if they were expected to be out there that long, they still there’s some bone density stuff, right? There’s there’s, you know, all that stuff.
So I guess I want to see if they can walk and grab it. I’m sure once you get off a cruise line, you’re sick. You’re a dog, right? Well, I’m sure the same thing applies.
You see legs underneath you, man. Check them out for a Velcro fetish that developed somehow up there. You know, and they’re like, that’s how you got to go to sleep.
Like ambient white noise or Velcro. Somebody’s got to stand there. You want to see the reentry? Show me a live view of crew nine just minutes away from splashing down off the like steam buns.
Two minutes from now to 57 p.m. Pacific. We do have four healthy manes really doing the job there. Just breathtaking views of a calm glass like ocean off the coast of Tallahassee, Florida.
Yeah, the ocean is perfectly still. This is a really such incredible shot. That was 600.
That was a live view from our recovery vessel, Megan, which is stationed. All right, I’m going to pause this for a second. Jake, if you knew you were coming back in and you had a camera on you the entire time, could you resist doing something else? Me? No.
Jeez, would you like me touching the other guy? Like, yeah, exactly. That’s my job. They’re glass somehow.
I love this man. The rubbers. It’s like they walk up the farm and got on the spaceship with those boots.
Yeah, that’s true. Yeah, I don’t know. It looks so drastically different from the shuttle days, right? The shuttle days were there was stuff all around and then and then this is just so sanitized.
No, it’s the push. Yeah, kind of. Right, right.
When you roll down the window, come on. A couple miles away from the splashdown. I would hate that because, you know, you can’t.
You can’t adjust yourself. They were just in space moments ago. I will hold somebody else’s hands.
It’s all right, but you’re going to be fine. Okay, big boy, you got this. It’s incredible to think that.
No matter what, it’s 17,000 miles per hour. But I was, I mean, as cool as this is. Obviously, that’s some kind of drone they got out there just perfectly.
Look at the recovery vessels. That’s amazing. That is absolutely amazing footage, right? Yeah, doesn’t it look like it’s taking forever continuing to monitor? It does.
Yeah, I was going to I was going to edit this video, but I didn’t want to. It does look fake to me. It’s a lot of work.
It looks like a video game. It just doesn’t look real. It’s so clear.
I use the applause. But look at this drone. Now, here’s here’s the other thing that blew me away.
They’re they’re coming for. That was surprising to me, too. I was like, we this guy’s catching rockets, but we’re still splashing down the capsule.
But I guess I guess you have no power. You can’t maneuver whatever it is. But wherever this was going to fall, they knew because this drone was there taking pictures.
That’s amazing, though, isn’t it, right? Well, that idea. Well, yeah, but it’s still free falling in. I think that’s pretty amazing.
That’s pretty badass, right? And they bring them down. Well, even the parachutes, the way they’re landing, is it’s all choreographed. It’s perfect.
And look at that. In the background, there’s a recovery. Welcome home.
I was watching it for a while. I thought they were going to be on like jet skis, just like tear ass and in there, you know, spraying them with rooster tails. Hey, hey, welcome home with like Nitro Circus jumping bunny.
That would have been badass. But here’s a here’s a video that I was talking about. This is really being placed around the capsule.
This harnessing is what we have. Dolphins out there lift out of the water and onto the recovery vessel. It almost seems a lot of dolphins.
It wasn’t just one or two. Oh, that’s damn cool. I mean, that water just looks beautiful.
We had ideal splashdown parameters today. Obviously, wave height, narrow concern. The weather is beautiful, as you mentioned in the 60s.
Meanwhile, Tesla’s car dealership is down five more percent. He’s going bankrupt. To the recovery vessel, Megan, we can see that we’re just controlling the distance there.
Oh, man, I’m more perfect as again. There’s dolphins landed in the sea. The distance is closing again.
This is just one more step as we continue to work recovery operations for I don’t know. It almost feels like they brought this dog. And we anticipate to occur here in just a few minutes.
Maybe they’re robot dolphins. Yeah, how cool would that be? No, it seems like it’s almost like the James Cameron. Yeah, it was really, really cool and really clear.
And I’m just amazed that they have that recovery ship in the vicinity and the drone just was waiting for them right where they hit. That blows me away. Where did they, like what body of water did they? Gulf of America, Anna.
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Sorry. You do know where that’s at, right? I didn’t realize that the water is so clear in Gulf of America.
Miraculously cleared up like three months ago. Tallahassee. Where’s Tallahassee exactly? Okay, all right.
God, that’s perfect, man. That is absolutely perfect. So they made it run off from the Chicago St. Patty State dying.
Just all that green river from Chicago flows down. Oh, that’s gonna be nasty. Yeah, that’s probably the cleanest that river is.
Is when they had the dye to it, you know. So I thought it was pretty cool. So welcome back.
Crew nine and Butch and Sunny in particular. Right, riveting. Okay, from space news.com. This next story.
Hey, good news for the Space National Guard. Maybe exist. Maybe next year.
Maybe next year. Space National Guard debate reignited with bipartisan legislation. I thought this was interesting.
What do you hear the senators and congressmen involved with it? A bipartisan push to establish the Space National Guard has resurfaced on Capitol Hill challenging a compromise reached just months ago on how to structure the reserve component of America’s newest military branch. I swear to God, I still don’t think they’ve really figured it out. But senators, Mike Crapo, a Republican from Idaho, John Hickenlooper, Democrat from Colorado, introduced the Space Guard Establishment Act last week seeking to create the Space National Guard as the official reserve component of the Space Force.
On the House side, representatives Jason Crow, Democrat from Colorado and Lauren Boebert, a Republican from Colorado, introduced identical companion legislation. So three from Colorado alone. Well, sounds like another business that Doge will be getting rid of.
Just shut it. All right, you anti guard, anti reserve, anti space guy. But it makes sense that they have an argument for Space Guard.
And the only reason I say that is because the part time thing is just that that’s what it’s called. I’m taking a break from the Space Force. You’re not discharged.
You’ll get a meeting to 14 years on the break, right? And that’s it doesn’t take a presidential act to reactivate you. That active duty commander owns you. So like to have a Space National Guard, if you don’t have a true reserve component, they can make an argument.
That’s all I’m saying for it. And like when I think about the representatives of Colorado, Boebert’s up North. So you have the Greeley National Guard or the National Guard seven.
Yeah, the 137th over there, which is a space. And then the other ones, which, you know, Buckley and Schriever and Peterson, those are your other representatives. Yeah, that’s true.
I’m surprised Alaska wasn’t involved because I know those National Guard guys over there. They they don’t want to leave. Yeah.
Who are they? Well, they got all the missile, the GMD, right? The GMD defense up there. What the and they have and they have the 213th missile arm. They got clear.
Well, the effort comes just months after Congress approved the Space Force Personnel Management Act, which eliminated the traditional distinction between active duty reserve and reserve and guard units. The law passed as part of the fiscal year 2025 NDAA all allows full and part time service members to operate within a single system, providing an alternative to establishing a separate National Guard component. Now, that all sounds great on the surface, but Anna, how do they get paid? How do they come on and off active duty? I mean, it doesn’t make any sense.
When they go on to active duty, the state uses their funds to bring them on to active duty. Are you talking about title 32 and title 10? Yeah. Funds.
Yeah, how’s that? I don’t think they’ve ever figured it out. So, so when I was that clear, I know when they would log in to the system, they were considered title 10. Now, all the budget and whatever, but when they’re away from the system, they were considered Alaska National Guard Guardsmen.
But anytime they were hands on console, they were Well, it makes sense that because there’ll be a state resource, it makes sense that the state would be responsible for paying them when they’re active. But I think that’s all that’s all done. It’s some phantom.
Oh, you’re not on orders federally. So you’re just part time now. It doesn’t make any sense.
So are you talking about part time versus full time? Like under the one component? Are you talking about? No, I’m talking about this act that passed, which allows full and part time service members to operate within a single system. What does that mean? That’s never explained the reg space, you know, reg asked. So like you, first of all, you have to do your first enlistment.
And after you do your first enlistment, if you want to go part time, or first commitment, your commission or whatever, if you want to go part time, instead of getting out, your status changes to part time. Meaning for the next year, I’m still in the military, but I’m not activated to go into the military. So when I decide to come back, there’s no paperwork, there’s no reinvestment, there’s nothing.
I come back, and there’s no DD 214, no discharge, none of that. So they’re doing this so to prevent, I guess, more work or less work. I don’t know.
So they haven’t done it because nobody can figure it out. Well, I don’t think that’s any of the reservists that were like, they’re either getting out or going back to duty. Well, yeah, this is aside from the reserve.
This is saying the space force. That’s what I’m saying. There’s no reserves.
Yeah, yes. But nobody knows how that’s going to work. You’re on the practice squad.
That’s how part time means. You are part of the practice squad, and you will get activated. So if you use NFL analogy, you are on that practice squad.
And guess what? If we need you, you’re part of our farm team for baseball. What if, who activates them then? That active duty. If they’re active duty, exactly.
So they’re not owned by the state. So then they can actually be federally recalled back to their unit at the whims of the federal government. Okay, so can I ask my question? I’m really confused.
How do they have any clearly defined state requirements in this space force? No, get rid of this. What guardsmen are supposed to be there for, right, is to protect the state. Well, right.
And that’s, yeah, yeah. My thought process is… There’s a disconnect. Then doing that, like, with the space capability.
And to be honest. There is no state compliance. You’re absolutely right.
Same with 137th, right? Their missile right backup. There’s no state relevance to… You’re exactly right. They have a bone in the fight or a dog in the fight or whatever.
To me, it always makes sense for the states that had the ground radars. So like Alaska to me makes sense, right? Because like they’re looking up north to see if anything’s coming in. Okay.
You can make an argument for that. And I think you can make an argument for any of the ground radars. Although those are active duty units.
You could talk about Beall. You could talk about Massachusetts. But it’s like, hey, we’re looking for missiles coming to our state.
If they had a sister… No, no. Hear me out. I’m saying the argument the way they could justify it.
I’m not saying that’s right. But they wanted to establish it. I hear you’re trying to fight that fight.
But I’m with them. Space, unlike an infantry national guard. All right.
Yes, they’re infantry. But they can be called to defend the state. If there’s a zombie apocalypse.
Right. So to fight that state level. The 140th, right? They’re F-16s, National Guard F-16s.
So they are the governor’s asset. Space does a federal mission. Does a national or international.
I agree with you. I’m just saying the argument that they would make. That’s what I’m saying.
I’d love something like that. For that argument to be relevant though, the state guard representatives would have to have the ability to warn the state. Just the state.
Would they have it? Just the state. Would they have the ability, that ops floor have the ability to be like, oh, let’s warn the state, Mrs. La Junta. La Junta.
We have a- And like I said, the best example I could use was Alaska because I worked with the National Guard down there. And then you were there. You were also in Fairbanks and they had that National Guard units over there with the fighters and everything else.
So I’m saying for that big state, I can make an argument about, hey, this is coming this way. And you are going to activate all the assets that we have here in Alaska. Just to protect it, right? But I was trying to make the same arguments for the coastal steps because that’s going to be the first.
I just think the space mission is a federal mission. I mean, it’s a national mission. But it depends what part of the space mission.
That’s what I’m saying. All of space. They’re doing ground-based missile warning to me and then you’re activating any missile defense because then you can put a missile defense units and put them as guard.
All right. Who’s going to target Alaska? You got five ICBMs worth $5 billion. Are you going to throw one at Alaska? But if it’s going to come through their backyard.
You’re not going to shoot Alaska. But if it’s going to come through their backyard, they can intercept. But if you were a state guy, you’d be like, I’m not shooting one of my missiles.
We’re going to land Alaska. Let’s go this way. You have a farm.
Those other states. You’re in your farm and you have all this land, right? But I’m going to fly my drone over your farm. But why would you shoot it down? If I don’t care about your farm, I’m just going over your farm by still going over your territory.
So you can shoot me down, right? I don’t think you’re going to shoot down drones. I’m just saying, right? I’m missing the relevancy. The relevancy.
Yeah, I think you’re pushing. I can understand what you’re trying to do. I respect you for two days.
One bullshit unit, one bullshit guard unit out of fucking eight ground-based radar sites. And you’re trying to push this on all the rest of the space force. Hey, I’m the same.
I’m the same. I’m going to make the argument. The only reason it’s a guard unit is because nobody at your duty wants to man that shit.
That’s true. Yeah, that’s true. Like, fuck, I’m going to shoot it out of here.
I’m going to shoot it out of here. I tried. Leave me alone.
It was worth a shot. Good job. Two stars, not just one.
Jason Crow, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, emphasized that the legislation would require this new legislation for the space guard would require no additional personnel units or facilities. True. It’s all right there.
All you got to do is just bring them back. Start paying them again. While allowing space specialists to continue supporting space force missions.
The push for a national space National Guard now faces a complex legislative path, given that the Space Force Personnel Management Act was already signed into law for 2025. This new proposal will likely need to be reintroduced in the fiscal year, 2026 NDAA. So space guard, don’t hold your breath.
They might get it next year. So I think I think the real big thing is they they make such a big deal about the guard and one of the reasons was because I think when this was first proposed, they were going to take guard units away from the governor. Alright, from the states.
That was there was a didn’t a bunch of governors sign a petition to say don’t do this. This is my asset, not your asset. But I don’t understand why they couldn’t continue the space reserves for that very same reason that you didn’t have to go into this crazy unthought through complicated your your part time your full time.
Yeah, I want. Oh, you want to be full time? Okay, then you’ll be a part time. It doesn’t make any sense how that was supposed to work.
The reserves seem to work pretty damn well. You know, a little more fishy sits, especially in Colorado when you had sister squadrons all over the place. You know, it’s funny, Marty, during the the gallon, you know, I know either you could tell like with General Burke there, the speakers there, it seemed like you were speaking straight to the space wars and saying good luck on your part time stuff.
Right? Yeah, it was funny. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And there are other I were going back to 1992 where you guys couldn’t figure it out.
The reserves figured it out for you guys. So you guys go through this asking again and we’ll be waiting to create basically a space force reserve. That’s that’s what happened.
Yeah, it’s a really dumb concept, I think. But I also think that since they introduced it, their egos were too big. Like they went behind the doors and are like, well, we really we really screwed this up.
Well, don’t admit it. Just keep driving forward. We really do hold the line.
Yeah, yeah. They’re gonna break. Yeah, I want to admit that we screwed this up because we’ll just look for an opportunity to reintroduce it.
That’s what we’re doing. And somebody will get a start for it. Don’t worry about it.
Right, right. All right. Moving on from now.
I want to get your reaction is because when I first read it, I like maybe we’re going too far. So I wonder what your thoughts are on this story from stripes.com. So Arlington National Cemetery Scrubs race and that part cemeteries website. I didn’t even get through the title.
Why they did that? I don’t. I really got upset about this one. I think it’s hard to identify that one.
This makes no sense. Well, what are we doing? Okay, sorry. All right.
The way it’s I first read it, I was like, are they like scratching names off graves or something? I was like, oh, it’s from the website. All right. So we got the websites.
The Arlington National Cemetery has purged. It’s a website of material focused on black Hispanic and female troops buried there. Not in the website, but in the cemetery.
The purge was a response to Donald Trump’s executive order to remove materials related to DEI from government websites. Arlington officials said Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth later issued an order to remove materials highlighting race and gender as part of a Pentagon quote, digital content refresh and quote. The changes to the website were first brought to light this week and quote Civil War Memory, a newsletter published on the Substack social media site by historian Kevin Levin.
That’s Kevin Levin. Kevin Levin. Among some of the changes were modules dealing with the Civil War, African American history and women’s history.
Before January, the website included lists of prominent black people and famous women buried at Arlington. While the individual graves still turn up on website searches, lists grouping the dead by race or gender do not. The web page citing quote notable graves had subsections including one for African Americans.
The link to the list has been taken down. So how do dead people have anything to do with DEI? Well, they’re dead. Here’s if it was a female, a male, a Mexican person, whatever.
All right. Like from what Barney is saying, though, if I’m searching and I know that my aunt was black, female and stuff like that, it makes it easier to search. But when they put out this whole good and the fact that they put out that I feel like they went on like they have like a chat to be TRA as like anything with race, gender or whatever you race across the board because they that happened to that black general with the with the Medal of Honor from Vietnam.
His page was taken out because I identify the page as a black male and it fit that description of DEI that they wanted that. See, I think we’re getting away from the true purpose of what the diversity inclusion and all that crap was. Dead people don’t care who they’re laying next to.
They don’t. Well, and that’s true. But what they’re saying is that they’re just all Americans.
Agreed. But does it hurt anything to tell me that this was a woman that was a black man? They’re dead. I don’t care.
No, no, no. But if you’re searching, right? Does it matter if I search for a black guy? Well, but why don’t you just search for the guy? Well, if I can buy his name, what if I get James Smith randomly? How many blacks are in here? Let me know, man. I’m saying how many Smiths are there? How many Tom Smiths are there? There’s got to be a million of them.
Where’s all the Asians buried at? 83% are in the Navy. I freaking knew it. I’m just saying I don’t think that changing Arlington’s procedures because of DE or DIE or whatever, DEI, diversity, inclusion and whatever, has anything to do with what the true meaning of it is on the outside.
Well, no, I agree with you. I agree with you. I’ll be honest with you.
I think this whole DEI thing’s taken way out of proportion. It’s exaggerated. I mean, the whole purpose of it is just to get minorities, women and what’s under DEI, though, it’s also veterans, disabled people.
So DEI encompasses a lot of people, but it’s to actually give you a seat at the table. You still have to be qualified. You have to be certified, but you’re right.
We’re not even talking about that in this case. I think the whole point what’s happening and the whole bad thing of DEI was that your certification is your skin color. But not your qualification.
In a lot of cases, yes. If a woman with less qualifications than I had, they would take the woman because they needed a woman instead of me, even though my qualifications were a little better. So but like that’s where it’s taken out of proportion though.
Like I would say the air traffic controller. I have a hard time believing that there was number set for that because when I was in the military for them to be certified, you know how many air traffic controllers I saw washed out? Didn’t matter what color they were. So like for them to start saying that, oh federally, they still have to get certified.
They still have to be so you gotta be careful about saying we were all in the military because we were all in the military with differing standards that they presented as all the same. True, but that’s my whole point. P.T. Dead people.
Straight up people. That’s the most glaring, right? Nobody cares. Dead people.
Is your max P.T. The same as Anna’s max P.T. But you could say that for age discrimination too though. It’s just I’m just I’m talking about but I’m just saying you can say the same thing for about age within the same sex. Well, yeah, but at least all the categories were Jesus.
Is that am I right? No, you’re not right. Okay, because yes, there was an age group. All right, got it.
But it was a male age group. That age group wasn’t the same as the female age group. Okay, let’s get back on target.
How does saying that, oh look, my website, I can’t find a black guy named Tom Jones because he’s wild. You got to look at a guy named Tom Jones. That’s what I just said.
What’s the matter? The dead guy doesn’t matter if he’s being called black Tom Jones. I think the point of what they’re trying to do is just say they’re all Americans. Let’s wipe the race gender.
They all served honorably and we’re all American. You know, it’s I hear you. It’s Martin Luther King’s dream, right? I hear you.
I’m tracking on that part. So how is that not? Why is affecting the cemetery gonna make it better by calling them all Americans? I don’t see that. They’re all dead people.
They don’t care. What’s the impact of that? Why waste money changing your website for dead people? Yes, makes no sense when we’re trying to save money. Right.
Let’s go elsewhere where there’s people that are alive who you can make a make an impact on this organization. We’re all human beings. We’re all Americans.
We aren’t determined by the color of our skin. The people in the grades don’t care. And you’re also making it matter.
You’re obviously making it very obvious that we do have a problem with gender or race because like now we’re taking the effort to remove it because we’re making it a thing. So just let it just be I agree. That seems like it seems like an overreach on a website instead of going, hey, what let me see the prominent blacks, right? I mean, because that’s what they scrub.
That’s what they scrubbed off the website. They’re like, okay, we’re not gonna. We’re not gonna single out groups because of their race.
So if you want to see if you want to search for somebody, you can still search for somebody, but we’re not going to have a section of here are the black heroes. So who who is impacted by not being able to search by the black prominent people? I don’t know. I think I’m not defending it.
Well, maybe I am defending a little bit because I think I’m trying to go to the ideal of we shouldn’t worry about who the prominent blacks are. Let’s work. Let me search for Medal of Honor winners.
Okay, I can still do that and all of them will come up. But if I go, let me search for the half black half Asian ones who weren’t Medal of Honor winners, but let me have a page on them. Here’s the thing.
You just basically removed the Tuskegee Airmen from the search profile. Well, sure. Yeah, I agree.
Unless you know them by name, which you guys know any of their names. So you can’t look them up by name, but then you could or couldn’t look them up by the first black squadron. Well, good point.
Yeah, sure. And not only that, but I would like to see how history has changed and how we have been more inclusive. I just don’t like watching history get it.
Like it just seems like we’re just. Again, we’re doing the exact same thing as tearing down statues in the South. Yeah, right.
We’re doing the exact same thing. We got pissed. Like the one side got pissed.
The pendulum was over here. And now let’s go removing all these people’s heroes. And now all of a sudden, you’re like, why are we just racing or removing history consistently? It’s it’s you know, it’s like I feel like with cancer culture that started happening.
Like you said, one group gets pissed off. There’s an overreaction from that group to depending on what’s going on. And it’s like dude, like.
Like who cares? It doesn’t bother me. If you eat that Civil War people where you’re cool. That’s you and like whatever.
Just like this whole canceling things getting way out of hand. Well, it’s just in a different way. Jake Jake had enough.
I feel like it’s a way of like example of the Tuskegee Airmen. It’s it’s kind of like you’re forcing people to do more research when it could be done a lot easier just because I’m just saying you’re messing with the graders book reports, man. Like you’re totally hosing them on material fodder.
Oh, I think it’s an important history. I don’t I I think my daughter had an assignment one time where and she brought it home. She was like hey, I’m supposed to refer to P. I’m supposed to to describe somebody to you without using race.
And I was like, oh, that’s a bitch. That’s tough. How about that fat dude over there? Oh, I can’t say that either.
It’s like, God damn it. What characteristic can I use that? Good looking fellow. I think there’s a there’s a there’s a line where we’re pushing people because of race too much.
And then we’re erasing race too much. So there’s gotta be some in between there, but you know, it does seem like we’re getting to a point where we’re like, hey, this is the first person who’s ever done this. And you’re just great.
Are we there yet? When are we there? When are we? When can we stop marking the milestones and just go? That’s interesting. Yeah, because the moment we stop marking the milestone is the moment there’ll be no prejudiceness, I think. Yeah, because they’ll be there.
Right, it’ll just be like, oh, good for her or him. Well, here’s the fact, you’re going to have an old white guy. Interesting.
You’re going to have a guy. How do I get that finger straight? Like a guy of color, women, black men, Asian. They’re not going to change.
They’re always going to be there. So it’s not like we’re getting rid of the races just because we don’t say they belong to that race. That’s dumb.
Yeah, it’s like you’re saying, hey, describe Marty, but don’t tell me what color hair he is. Don’t call him a white guy. What color? What color of hair does he have? Does he have white or black? He’s a salt and pepper god.
But that’s not a color. You know, it’s funny. Oh, everybody knows exactly what I’m saying.
And I feel here in America, I’m sure it’s done in other countries. But when I went to England, I wasn’t, oh, that dude, you know, he must be Latino. He must be Mexican or whatever.
They would hear my voice and it’s like, oh, that’s a Yankee or that’s an American. Took me going to a different country to be called by my nationality. Not race, my nationality.
I am American. And that’s what it took for me to actually say, oh, shit, this is the first time I’m identified as an American. And that’s a good point for that.
That is an excellent point. I don’t say, hey, that Arminian guy. Like, you know, when we hear accents, when we hear accents, you know, they’re British.
Yeah, they’re nationalities, right? Yeah, you go based on the nationalities. It doesn’t matter what color they are. And on the reverse side of that, if we hear a black guy with the English accent, oh, he must be British African.
Like, he’s a British. Yeah, so I think we’re one of the only countries that do that. No, no, it’s because we default to the quickest, easiest way to identify somebody.
So if you work your way down, you’re like, oh, he’s an Aussie. You’re like, oh, there’s not a lot of Aussies. Okay, he’s an Aboriginal Aussie.
You’re like, oh, I got it. If you had like a herd of Aussies, he’s an Aboriginal. And you always go top down.
The white state farm Jake or the black one? It’s what you do. You default it like that. But maybe we’re trying to get to Martin Luther King’s dream, right? Maybe.
Where we’re colorless society. Maybe it’s okay to say black, as long as you’re not being a dick about it. Or have any, right? Maybe that’s the better.
That’s what I’m saying. That’s the, that’s the piece of the dream. We’re never going to get there.
The fact that there are black people, there are Filipinos, there are Mexicans, there are women, there are. Just don’t be a dick about it. Don’t be a dick.
Yes. And then I can just judge you on your merit. Yeah, right.
You’re a dick. Oh, because you’re a dick. No, because you’re baldness.
You’re a piece of. All right, speaking of black and white, let’s get to Miss America. Wow.
Did we finish that article by the way? Did we, did we put that Arlington dress? We killed that article. Well, there wasn’t much more other than them saying they’re scrubbing the website. He muddled the shit out of it.
So let me ask you this. One last question and I’ll get off it. At the end of these, at the end of this four years, do they put all the stuff back there? We got that, Eric.
Did they put it back into their web page that says prominent black people, section 106? At this rate, yes. That’s the annoying part, right? Every before the presidents would just void whatever the last president kind of signed or did. Yeah, right.
Now it’s like, don’t only void that shit, you void whole departments and you start from scratch and then build them back up. Undermine. That was, Joey, he did that crap.
And you’re like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let’s dial this over. We’re supposed to be saving money, not redoing everything.
Right, right. We redid the names of the bases. Well, a couple of them so far, but we’re going to… Are we saving money or are we not? How much money is that? Rename, probably not.
Hey, how many papers got changed from the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America? Exactly. Probably not many. I don’t know when I read the Gulf of Mexico.
No, I’m just saying that the federal agencies probably have to do something. Oh, shit. Now he’s going to get mad if I don’t change this.
Or reflect the map on the wall that says Gulf of Mexico. They just sharpied over that shit. I’ll spend that money rather than some of the stuff we’re supposedly spending money on.
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think we can throw a couple hundred mil over here to do this right.
That’s where it all starts. You can’t. It could be.
Well, when the pendulum swings the other way, we’ll have the anti-dos come in and we’re like, we’re bringing waste back, baby. And then we’re like, yeah. You get a hundred million and you get a hundred million.
Let’s pass it around. GS14’s for everyone. Come on in, baby.
Hey, that government retirement’s looking awesome. All right. Well, let’s talk about some more females.
Oh, where’d Anna go? She got rid of the only female. She had to pick her nose, too. I guess so.
Hey, how much are you feeling for this money? Damn. And I was just about to talk about a female thing. Way to go.
Well, not a female thing. But was she waving to say that she was leaving? I didn’t see her wave. Yeah, she went like this.
And then, oh, since she’s bailed, I wonder if she had a power. Maybe she had a power thing. Well, anyway, if you remember last year, we were talking about the first military person to win Miss America, Madison Marsh.
Now, the military wins Miss USA. How about that? Yeah. We’re getting good at something.
Woo-hoo. From strikes.com. Miss USA Army First Lieutenant Alma Cooper inspires over 4,000 California students. So this is pretty cool.
US Army First Lieutenant Alma Cooper, an Army Intelligence Officer and the reigning Miss USA, spoke to more than 4,000 students about opportunities in the Army and different pathways to pursue degrees in higher education at high schools, in Orange, Riverside, and San Diego Counties in California with the Riverside Recruiting Company. That almost sounds like a dance show or something. A recital.
The Riverside Recruiting Company. She is currently assigned to the US Army Recruiting Command in the San Francisco Bay Area. A part of that service is being able to share with students all across the country, my own personal hurt.
Sorry. She said a part of that service being able to share with students all across the country, my own personal story. I want to hopefully inspire them and give them the encouragement to go on and chase their dreams and serve their country.
Right? You want to see First Lieutenant Alma Cooper? There she is. Right there. Talking to all they, she’s an Intel Officer.
She’s assigned to the Recruiting Command, obviously doing out her Miss USA thing. How can I search for her? Black woman, Asian woman. How about her name, Eric? How about just her name? That would work too, right? Jesus, God.
You just want to keep poking the bull, don’t you? But if you really want to know, her dad was a retired major. Oh, okay. The mom was a migrant worker from Mexico.
There you go. Yeah, all right. Very good.
Jorge Alonso, 18, is a future soldier preparing to ship out to the Army’s initial military training. He’s one of the many students at Hillcrest High School that felt inspired by Cooper’s visit. There was one thing she said, and it was, if you can see me, you can be me.
I like, that’s pretty good. That’s a good little phrase there. If you can see me, you can be me.
That really stood out to me, said Alonso, who will be an information tech specialist in the Army. Cooper became the first active duty Army officer to be crowned Miss USA last year and is the second military woman to claim that title after Army Reserve Officer Deshauna Barber in 2016. In January 2024, Air Force Second Lieutenant Madison Marsh, who Eric took through dog training, if you’ll remember that, won the Miss America pageant to become the first active duty officer to win that crown.
Don’t you remember when we were role-playing when she went out with the dog stuff? I do. That was damn funny. You want to see her crown as Miss USA? Yeah, Jake sent that picture.
She looks a lot better there than she doesn’t even know. So here’s a little bio honor. Cooper graduated with honors at the United States Military Academy West Point with honors from West Point.
Nice. And is in the process of earning a master’s degree with a scholarship at Stanford. She said the opportunity to engage with students in a unique and impactful experience was an impactful, unique and impactful experience for her.
Being Miss USA is a deep honor and privilege but I only think about being Miss USA for 365 days, Cooper said. I get to say that I am serving my country for the rest of my life. That’s a good little interview question.
That’s a good one. Hopefully by sharing my journey to service, people can realize that there is a way for them to serve in their own way. So I’m sure you guys were wondering what’s the difference between Miss USA and Miss America? Sure that thought just popped in your head.
What’s the difference between those two? I’m glad you guys asked me that. For what I found out, Miss America focuses more on talent and community service, while Miss USA focuses more on physical appearance and modeling skills. No, it’s a really insulting way to describe the two.
Yeah man, this is a true Miss America article up. So Miss America is more like a person to try. Those good bows over there only concentrate on looks and gables.
So Miss America is more like, hey you’re the type of person I want to marry because you’re nice. That could be, yeah, right. And Miss USA is like pre-only fans.
Yeah, exactly. Thank you for joining us. On that note.
But here it goes on more Jake. Miss America has a scholarship program. While Miss USA does not.
Miss America contestants. Miss America contestants must be single, while Miss USA contestants can be married or divorced. Very good.
That’s all I found out from the AI. So that’s what they don’t. There’s soiled goods because they’re married.
They’re uneducated, second class citizens. Holy cow, man. That’s brutal.
That’s brutal. I probably should have found one that was more weighted the other way to see what they thought, right? You know, if you’re going based on education, I guess you could have done that. The question is like, remember this Miss USA? Remember the Iraq? The Iraq.
That was a Miss America bag, girl. Hobag. Hobag.
So anyway, good on you, Lieutenant. I’m a Cooper Cooper. Very cool.
Very cool. Do your thing. Eric, take us home with some history before we all lose power here.
Oh, I got a good one. This is good. So 1942 Pearl Harbor has just been hit, right? And who were the culprits? Well, 1941.
I know, 1941. Who were the culprits? Japanese, right? So what happens in the U.S.? We start to get paranoid, right? Everybody, everybody with a Japanese background, German background, Italian background, right? So on 18 March, the War Relocation Authority is created. Oh, no.
Yeah, that’s, I mean, I certainly understood the need. I didn’t understand why we couldn’t have done a better job of vetting Japanese U.S. citizens, right? To include all of them, I guess. But so the War Relocation Authority was created.
It takes all people of Japanese descent into custody, surround them with troops, prevent them from buying land, or returning them to their former homes at the close of the war. It did not even depend on your status, whether you were a poor. You were rich.
You were a person of status. It didn’t matter. Anger toward and fear of Japanese Americans began in Hawaii shortly after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
Every one of Japanese ancestry, old and young, prosperous and poor, were suspected of espionage. The suspicion quickly broke out on the mainland as early as February 19, 1942. Roosevelt then orders that German, Italian, Japanese nationals, as well as Japanese American citizens, be barred from certain areas deemed sensitive militarily.
California, which had a significant number of Japanese American residents, saw a particularly form of anti-Japanese sentiment. Yeah, I bet. With the state’s Attorney General Earl Warren, who would go on to be the Chief Justice of the United States, claiming that a lack of evidence of sabotage among the Japanese American population proved nothing as they were merely biding their time before they attacked.
Golly. Yeah, that’s freaking crazy. And I mean, we could go, I’ll let you guys research it more, but that was when the act was implemented.
The War Relocation Authority, 18 March, 1942. And it was ridiculous, man. Now, we didn’t put them in work camps and treat them poorly, but you’re still being biased.
The guards are still assuming you’re, you know, that was terrible. Bad time for us. There’s one of those camps out here in Colorado.
Is there? Yeah, historic site, yeah. It interned it? Where is that? It’s, what is it, Granada or Grenati? Really? Oh, I had no idea. Yeah, it’s like southeast corner.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I never read Remembering Manzanar. I know it’s one of the books that we have to read in California.
But it was about Japanese internment camps. So if you’ve never read that book, it’s a pretty good book. It’s a pretty good book.
Take a look at that. I’ll take you through the history and what they went through. So it’s like first person, which he went through on the whole thing.
So it’s crazy. My mom. For you to prove your point, oh, I’ll give you one chance.
For you to prove your citizenship, they would allow them to enlist in the army to fight. Japanese. Most of them went to the German side.
But yeah, I mean, that was you proved your citizenship that way. Crazy. My mom.
Who grew up in Hawaii. And she was like 10 or 12 when Pearl Harbor happened. They would go down Pearl Harbor and crab every Sunday.
But they had many Japanese neighbors on their neighborhood that they never saw again. And they came and took them away and they’re just like, yeah, we’re gone. And so that wasn’t even a state and they were doing it.
But also understand that that’s right there. I mean, yeah, I mean, I certainly understood the need for it. I just thought we could have done a better job of vetting, certainly US citizens who were born there, been there, who established working.
And I know about agents and shit like that. Yeah, they would. They would come back after that and go back to their shop and it would be owned by somebody totally different.
That is that abandoned, right? Well, it’s just crazy. But I want to say and I may be way over my skis here, but it does seem like we made a somewhat argue too much of an effort to make sure that after 9-11 that it’s not like a don’t go off to your neighbors. We don’t want to return to that time of internment camps and prejudice just because of what happened.
So it seemed like we maybe we did better. I don’t know if local incidents would probably prove that wrong, but it seemed like we made a much bigger effort to try and not go down that road this time. I think so honestly, but I agree.
And another perfect example is I didn’t have my beard back then. The Brown professor that they won’t let reenter the country because she was at that guy’s funeral in Lebanon. So she was a professor at Brown University.
Yeah, I thought she was just tan. Brown University has all these protests supporting her to get her back in. And then I listened to Rubio and Rubio said, why would we allow you to come in? Had you been honest with us that you supported a man and his needs and things he does supporting Hezbollah.
We wouldn’t let you in the first place. So why would I let you reenter now when you feel that way? I’m not gonna let you do that. That goes against what we stand for.
So I mean, that was an interesting man. Same thing with the whole Columbia trying to shut down this private support of Hamas. Right.
Is she a US citizen? She is not not initially not initially. She became one and then on her phone they investigated her and saw all this support on these different networks for this guy who was killed in Lebanon. And he was one of their leaders and she was calling him a spiritual leader.
We call him a fucking terrorist who’s dead and she goes all the way back to Lebanon to participate and support his funeral. Yeah, yeah, but that’s a slippery slope. And you’re a US citizen.
You leave the states and then the US government doesn’t agree with your personal choices. But didn’t you hear what I said? Rubio. No, no, I heard you.
But that’s right now. But I feel like that’s what cuts us care. Give it 10 years and Hezbollah might be a good guy according to the US government.
Don’t play it off, Eric. You know what happened in Afghanistan. Yeah, right, right.
We fooled the Mujahideen like forever. And then all of a sudden like. Now you’re the bad guys.
Once we needed them, we’re good. We’ll give them tons of money in training once we don’t. Osama was our guy for 10 years.
I know, but that’s what I’m saying. As long as the Russians were there. But yeah, just because you disagree with the current government’s direction or who they deem to be a bad guy, they don’t let you back in your country.
Well, I have to take the other side. I agree with this. If you feel that way, take your ass and stay out.
Don’t come here and tell us. No, there’s different types of freedom in my opinion. And certainly coming down to take down our freedom is not one of them.
Because according to her belief, I shouldn’t be alive. I am a what do they call us? Nonbelievable. And you shouldn’t be on this planet.
You shouldn’t be on this planet. It’s tough when you get down to the little singular cases like that. I mean, I understand the philosophy as a whole, but you can always poke holes into it with exceptions, right? And it’s not one mass policy is not going to be right.
But if you’re in charge and say back then you had all these random terrorist activities by Japanese in 1942, then they would have looked at it and said, you know, they just attacked us. Why didn’t you do something? And they had all those Nazi units here. Yeah, the Nazi supporters.
Right, right, right. But I think it starts with like one person identifying that one person. And then you look into that person’s background and like, okay, what does that person believe? Then you start generalizing it.
And that’s when it gets dangerous. Well, I’m saying like, and depending what like those administrations will say, like, you know, like, and I’m not trying like, even with current events, right? Like with the Venezuelan’s or this and that, they generalize that whole group here in Colorado when they generalize the Venezuelan’s about shooting up apartments. And there was a scare of everybody saying, oh, Venezuelan’s are all bad.
They’re not all bad. So we really have to be careful on how we identify so we don’t have a gang. Generally aren’t productive.
No, I get that, Marty, if I’m saying, but now everybody’s in a gang in Venezuela. That’s the whole thing. And for a while, but I’m saying like, you identify that, right? Like, it’s, it’s just, it’s based off first glance.
And we have to be very careful. Now, I think, I think as a nation, we’re better than that. Well, we try to be, but then you get, you get groups like La Raza, who are actively trying to get that land back, right? From within.
That’s, yeah, they talk about us. They talk about us, right? So what do you do? You know, what do you do? Like, you generate that, right? But when you generate, it’s all their documents. So it doesn’t need to be generalized, but you’re right.
People get generalized with, with that, like, what you see is what you’re going to identify. People that look, Marty, Marty, I don’t want Jake’s type on the show anymore. He disagrees with white guys.
He’s got to go. He’s got to go. But it’s, it’s, it’s the same just less of it.
It’s the same as. Because I don’t have all grays. You said for, for American Nazi part, right? Yeah.
We don’t necessarily stand for that. We don’t want that because they’re going to get, that’s shit. And they’re going to give us, they’re these two guys, they’re going to give them bad names, right? Nobody wants that.
Nobody wants skinheads around. Nobody wants anybody who’s going to cause trouble, even if you’re the same race. Nobody wants them around.
So I think that sentiment is, is pretty prevalent of anybody, no matter what. So no matter what, if you’re going to cause shit, I don’t want you around. That makes sense.
So, but yeah, you’re right on the generalization. Okay. Good discussion.
It’s not a happy note that we go out on, but it is a note to go out on, I suppose. Those kind of history, though, Eric, I like that. Thanks.
It’s an aspect that didn’t quite realize. It was March 18th is when they started it. Is that what you’re saying? All right.
It was signed into an executive order before that. I think it was back in February 19th that Franklin brings it into power. Wow.
Well, we had some interesting topics tonight. I think all our ire is up at each other. So let’s call that end up and take a breather and we’ll come back, you know, after we’ve cooled down and we can get back along as a rainbow coalition.
Rage, rage. Marty, I posted that location. This site.
At Google maps. Oh, good. I’m going to check it out there.
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