Episode Title: The Late For Changeover Show 26 Jun 2024
Date: Jun 25, 2024
Special Event Alert Drop the beer, put your car in gear, cause you are late for changeover. Your weekly space news and variety show. I’m your host Marty Smith and I’m joined by Mr. History Eric Perot and our man in the closet Jake Wall.
I liked that intro. That was a good one. I didn’t like it.
I didn’t like it. Well, yeah, never mind. It sucked Marty.
Come up there. Fair enough. We’re here to bring you the latest headlines and updates pertinent to all gardens and to the other lower branches as well.
So take your seats, get informed and have a laugh as we present late for changeover. So our little mule is truly late for changeover. He says he’s driving back from his, I assume his son’s game.
He just said the dog game. And I just complimented on how well he wore the uniform the other day. I know.
He really did. He said that’s what a senior NCO looks like as he as he shaved all that and dressed up and gave a first salute. So while you’re looking good, buddy, well, I can’t tell now until now you’re late.
This last week I was in Michigan and went to Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is crazy to go to a smaller town and you step off on the airport and you’re like, oh, there’s going to be a madhouse. And you’re like, no, it’s not. It’s really not.
Like, I got to get a that they didn’t have any rental cars. They were all rented out because it’s so small. So it’s like, you get a cab, I got a trudge out there and they’re like, no, right here.
Come on in. Does that work? Why is everybody so nice here? Was that work? No, it was for my my mother-in-law’s internment. So the the empathetic voice of our man in the closet because you could have just left it.
That was a mystery. But then you had to be like, let’s dig up some traumatic shit from your. Well, I mean, I mean, it was it wasn’t traumatic because she she actually passed last year.
So it took it took a while to get this earlier in the year. I think. So let’s talk about your parents divorce after this, too.
Let’s let’s cover all the sad stuff. Thanks. Yeah.
So your childhood dog hit by a car. Did your father beat you? Did he beat you? What? Well, I’m just trying to bring up. So we went out to Pine Lake.
That was good. That was cool. Oh, was it pretty? Yeah, that was.
Now, let’s don’t change us now. Let’s change late for change over for late for therapy. Yeah, we are just or just late.
The late was it human and nasty or was it? Yeah, it was human, but it was nice. You know, I mean, yeah, I mean, I do better in the community than I do in this high desert, you know, so. Yeah.
But it was nice. Everything was so, you know, I called up the boat guy and I was like, I want to rent your houseboat, you know, that who we rented it from. And he’s like, OK, thousand bucks for the for the thing, you know, three fifty a day or a thousand bucks for four days.
I was like, oh, fuck, I’ll take it for a thousand. And then it rained one day. So it called him up and I was like, as you know, he goes, how’d you how’d you like it? I was like, it rained one day.
He goes, I’ll knock it off. I’ll knock down the price. I was like, oh, what is going on? What is going on in Colorado? I even went, I picked my son up who came in the day later and I went back to the airport and I made that mistake.
I went into the wrong parking in a long term instead of short term. I was like, oh, fuck, take your ticket. And I was like, DIA is going to charge me two bucks just to drive into the exit.
Yeah. And I stuck it in there like, hey, thanks a lot. Take care.
And I was like, I have the car. Colorado would charge for you. I know.
Oh, it rained on it. You need to clean it extra. Oh, right.
Right. Yeah. So the more, you know, that’s probably I don’t know if it’s necessarily Michigan, but it’s definitely that kind of backwoods you feel.
So it was like, that was nice. It was nice to be around. I had it coming back here because as soon as you step off the plane and DIA, like, motherfucker, you know.
So those construction signs in DIA are hilarious. Did you read all those? Because there’s all there’s always that mystery about there’s all the conspiracy theory about DIA, right? Right. All that crap.
And then it was like. Did they play up on it? Oh, they did. I got to look it up for you.
It was it goes like smart construction or cover up. And then it has a picture of the freaking tent building, right? But on the boards, blocking it off. Yeah.
Yeah, it was good. I still have a lot of this tonight, guys. What’s that? I just noticed this.
Jake’s back door behind him looks like it’s the door to the universe, man. Open the door. And you step off like Twilight Zone.
Like a Doctor Who kind of thing. You see the stars and that’s awesome. All right.
So once here, I hope he’s like breathing heavy and stuff. Why don’t you go? I am back. All right, man.
Nice. That was good. How’d your son do? They went? Yeah, they won.
Like I said, this year is like a winning a winning season. So that’s awesome. Oh, that’s right.
That’s right. Have they lost at all? Ah, one game. One game.
Well, to recap, we were just praising you until you were late. And then we were cursing you. Well, I’m sorry.
I have job senior and CEO. Shitty job senior. Well, I’ll tell you.
So I’m not sure we got into that topic of the article with the force are trying to shape up. Oh, we just started. We just started.
Yeah, we just started. All right. But now you brought it up, baby.
Hold your fuel. I’ve got a strict script here. I can’t.
I don’t have the freedom to just. Oh, no, no. Yeah.
I already can’t. Well, what I what I witnessed that OTS. Was like, really, this is this is what you’re allowing.
Welcome to that conversation. All right. I can’t wait for it.
I can’t I can’t wait to get into that. All right. So look at this.
Our first are we ready for the news? We got any more banter? We’re on the moon. All right. I posted an article in the chat.
What’s the article for the Denver DIA conspiracy theory? Oh, OK. All right. Go go.
So our first story, gentlemen, do you do you think Boeing’s had a great 20 24? Oh, no. They’re killing everybody out there. Well, our first story comes from a website.
I think you sent it to me. Live Science dot com. Right.
And I think I think I merged two articles here, but basically both articles say the same. NASA again delay star liner undocking and return to Earth. Oh, so the live science dot com article says astronauts stranded in space due to multiple issues with Boeing star liner and the window for a return flight is closing.
Drop a tire or a door or a hydrazine jet or something. I think that means is that they’re buying or he’s not sorry. It might have been a safe supplier for that.
Yeah. Yeah. Are the five got some serious quality control issues.
Yeah, they do. Two NASA astronauts who rode the orbit on Boeing star liner currently stranded in space aboard the ISS after engineers discovered numerous issues with the Boeing spacecraft teams on the ground are now racing to assess star liner status. So this was this was updated just yesterday.
Astronauts butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams. I can’t remember think pronounce their Sunni or sunny. I think it’s sunny.
Yes. Launched on June 5th and we’re originally scheduled to return to Earth on June 13th after a week on the ISS. But their stay has been extended for a third time due to the due to the ongoing issues.
The astronauts will now return home no sooner than June 26th. All right. So that’s Thursday.
And more tomorrow. Yes. Right.
After years of delays, Boeing star liner capsule blasted off from Cape Canaveral on June 5th. But during the twenty five twenty five hour flight, engineers discovered not one, not two, but five separate helium links to the spacecraft’s thruster system and venom slitted on board. That’s how venom got here.
I mean, can you can you see that? Miss control is like, I got one. That’s great. Me too.
Hey, I got my thruster for. Yeah. Oh, no, it’s gone to the next one.
Bingo, bitches, I got all five. To give engineers time to troubleshoot the faults, NASA has announced it will push back the perilous return flight, extending the crew stay on the space station to at least three weeks. Now, in all fairness, the issue for star liner troubleshooters is that the helium leakage and the thrusters in question are located in the star liners drum shaped service module on the bottom, which is attached to the base of the crew capsule.
The service module is jettisoned prior to reentry and burns up in the atmosphere. So given that engineers will not be able to examine the actual hardware after the fact, NASA and Boeing managers want to give them as much time as possible to review telemetry to continue testing and to polish contingency scenarios in case additional problems show up after undocking. So I get that now that might be clever spin.
But that also makes sense. It’s like, well, if this piece that we’re having all the problems with is going to be disintegrated or is it? Take a look at it. Fall through somebody’s house recently.
Not yet. Later, don’t spoil the show. You’re ruining the surprise.
The return module, the star line of spacecrafts currently docked to the ISS is Harmony module as NASA and Boeing engineers assess the vital hardware issues aboard the vessel, including five helium helium leaks to the system that pressurizes the spacecrafts propulsion system and five thruster failures to its reaction control system. However, the Harmony modules limited fuel means Starliner can only stay docked for 45 days. So the window for a safe return flight is narrowing.
So they got to match that orbit. You know, if you do the orbital mechanics stuff, so they only have certain times and they’re like, no, no, no, no, no. NASA doesn’t have a problem with becoming a Apollo 13 type of thing.
Well, I mean, I hope I hope not. But I mean, man, you’ve got to have some you would think you got to have some pucker buttholes. Right.
It’s when you detach from that thing. Right. And am I really going to get to come home without the help of a Russian spaceship or or here comes Elon up there with Starship.
I’m like, hop in. We’ll rescue you. We’ll rescue you.
We do. Exactly. Here’s your resupply, guys.
You want us to take anything down? These two guys. All right. Hop on.
You got to sit in the back with the ship, but you’ll be fine. It’ll. We’ll call back middle.
We want the thruster hump. Exactly. Just to recap, Starliner’s first uncrewed test flight in 2019 was scuppered.
They used the word scuppered, was scuppered by a software fault that placed it in the wrong orbit. And a second attempt was held back by issues with the fuel valve. After more reviews last year, the company had to fix issues with the capsules parachutes and remove around a mile of tape that was found to be flammable.
Remember, we covered that a few months ago. Yeah, the officials said they were confident the helium leaks could be managed even if one or more gets worse after undocking. Only seven hours of helium is needed for the return to Earth.
And the Starliner has more than 10 times that amount left on board. Don’t you love the guy sitting in control on Earth going, we can manage that leak. It’s not a problem.
I’m not on the fly. Can you manage five? I’m not worried about exactly. I think we’ll be OK.
I think we’re all right. Don’t worry about that. Tell that guy to sit on the hump.
You’ll be all right. Yeah, this thing is going to come back in like a like a balloon with the knot on the tide. This is like.
What a mess. I hope not. I hope they can figure it out.
And it sounds like they got it figured out, but it’s kind of a sensationalistic story when they’re like, hey, they’re only supposed to be up there for five days. Now they’re going on three weeks. So many problems.
I still think it’s crazy how we reverted back to capsules. You know, we started with capsules and now we’re back. Why are we back at capsules? And the capsule doesn’t look any fancier, even though it probably is.
But still, it still looks like it was the southern side of the Saturn’s. Right. Go.
Yeah. Yeah. Hmm.
Anyway, so. So hopefully they can figure this thing out tomorrow. You know, and we’ll see if they can make that launch window.
Imagine being those astronauts right now. Like, like you’re thinking like, shit, what happened with the with the planes? And now we’re stuck with this shit. Like, we’re going to have to fly back into the atmosphere and we’re having all these leaks.
Like, it’s like, well, I’ll tell you, I’ll probably be tripping. I know how I do on the ISS. Yeah, sure.
Yeah. They’re probably like, oh, my God, I thought they’d be out of here by now. Getters full again.
Who’s in there all the time? All the time, man. Space doesn’t agree with them. I told you not to bring it.
Yeah. Like. All right, you guys ready for the space walk? Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Well, somebody please call my wife and tell her I’m not coming home. You couldn’t have got 20 minutes ago. You just come in.
I think we’ve got to try to hitch a ride. Hey, it’s a cool week. It’s like, oh, no, we’re out of space.
We’re just dying. Right. We’re going to have to check here in the capsule.
Yeah, we’re going to have to go on my clothes on that bed. I can’t possibly. Oh, there’s weeks.
Yes, just I just use some gum. I just cover the leaks. Use some gum, duct tape.
You’re good to go. You got a spare duct tape. Here’s the rules.
Well, leftovers. We used to when we were in Schofield, the only place that you could fire the big charges, you had to fly over to the big guy right from Oahu. So they would use that.
We would we would barge all our equipment and then they would fly the personnel from Oahu over to Hawaii. And every time they would do that flight, it was like some National Guard flight from the states would use that as like credit. You know what I mean? So they would fly away.
They would fly us over there and then they would spend a week there until they flew us back. But as soon as you saw that tail fin with something North Dakota National Guard, you’re like, this plane is guaranteed to break down on our way back. Yeah, sure as shit.
It always one more week. And so we’re out the tarmac and are like, not today, fellas, tomorrow. And you and how livid you are.
These astronauts are three weeks overdue, man. They’re like, I love a bitch. Today, boys, tomorrow.
Hey, I guess in the bright side, they’re getting younger, though. You know, they’re in space. Call the tax terminal.
So they can’t they can’t say I ain’t even younger. It’s like, Bo, you’re in space. So you are.
You got that interstellar logic going there. Yes, I can call the tax terminal, get on space A availability. You know, is all this weight is all this tax free? Is all their per diem tax free? That’s a good point.
So how does it happen? But how many days they have to be out of the country, though? In the new month. It’s always new month. Yeah.
One day into the new month. They might not fix it. They might not fix that helium leak until July 5th.
We need to check that out, man. Hey, they’re crew chief. They’re made of coaches are a sorry boss.
It fucking broke down. We got you. We got you back.
Twenty nine days. So, you know, we lost that question. I’m curious now.
Yeah, that’s good. OK, Eric, let’s go to the next story, which will warm Eric’s heart, which I’m always trying to do. I just got some task and purpose dot com uniform inspections.
Oh, oh, yeah. I did two different articles on this, too. Right.
That’s awesome. So one was from Air Force Times. That’s thousands of airmen face inspection as four star warns of lax standards.
So we’ll just go with that one. Relax standards. Close to 70,000 airmen can expect a surge in quote back to basics uniform inspections and a full court press on shaving rules in the next month, according to a memo and orders issued by the commander of the Air Force’s largest command air combat commands, General Kenneth Wilsbach, who took over as a commander of ACC in February, issued orders Monday that every unit under his command, which is about 20 percent of all active duty Air Force members, who realize that a fit one out of five will focus on quote standards of conduct, dress and appearance, physical fitness and the observance of customs and courtesy.
So, I didn’t know that was it. It’s about damn time someone stood up and said, here he goes. Bullshit has gotta stop.
It’s about time. That will mean open ranks, uniform inspections at every unit in the ACC, a review of shaving waivers issued on either medical or religious grounds, and mandatory shaving classes for any airmen seeking a wave. That’s awesome.
Now, I like things but I like this. That’s awesome. That’s almost like, oh, you wanna get your ACL fix? We’ll go do 8 weeks of physical therapy and then we’ll assess you.
So, you wanna, you wanna shaving waver, waver? Alright, go do 8 weeks of shaving classes. So, I, I totally agree with this. So, last week when I went to Maxwell and I saw what what’s getting recruited for OTS from prior enlisted.
Oh, yeah. I was like, where is the standard, the weight standard stuff? I’ve never seen so many like, but I mean, I’m a big dude but these people were fat like in OTS training. Yeah.
They have full beards and stuff like that. So, I’m talking all this **** and and you know, my buddy said, you know, you really don’t have to shave like people are not shaving this and that. I was like, no, I’m talking all this ****.
I’m not gonna have a double standard. I’m shaving. I’m wearing my uniform.
I’m doing all this. Good on you. Granted, like that uniform was fitted for me when I was bigger on top cuz I used to heavier weights.
So, I didn’t like the way my uniform fit. I was more like a Spongebob Squarebob. Oh, that was that button.
How you doing? Yeah. So, back that one more baby. Everything, everything was fitting.
Everything was fitting fine. I was like, oh, cool. But it was just like, you just to see like how relaxed it got in the training environment was like, yeah, was I was like, dang dude, like this is this is what they’re accepting and I sounded very crusty.
So, my buddy who I my buddy who I gave him firstly, he was a master’s doctor. Don’t worry about it. I told you get the **** hate me in my class cuz I’m always putting them in check and this and that, right? So, we were those guys.
Nice. But man, it was just like, Eric, you would lost your mind. You would have been like WTF like what’s going on and then not only that but some some people were invited to do first salutes and they were still active duty and they did it on civilian clothes.
Oh, I’m like, dude, you got and and then the space culture. This was also disappointing me. So, there’s people listening Space Force.
How is it that there’s prior space guys and you guys didn’t come and support your people but the maintainers and defenders and people that that come from those. Guess what? They made an effort to go see their people commission. Yeah, always right.
Yeah. So, I mean like like then how are people gonna buy into it if those cultures are not being set up and it’s like, oh cool. Nobody’s gonna come and see me anyway.
So, why should I care? If they don’t care, why should I care? It’s corporate. It’s a corporate world now, man. It was even good to see the chief master in the Air Force jump on the bandwagon and say standards are faltering back.
Well, yeah. Well, they they talked about that. I think we covered that story last year when they had that chief who was like, I don’t give a **** if you got a waiver or not.
That doesn’t help. You know, stop stop. Stop wearing your skinny jeans and remember that the cologne.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It’s not a fashion for all the services. Right. Right.
Yeah. So, wrong color nail polish will do it every time, baby. Every time.
Uh let’s see. Let me let me at least show you. That’s General Wilsbach.
Right. That’s who took over for ACC. You got my vote.
He says, quote, while the vast majority of America maintain of airmen maintain professional standards, I’m concerned by a discernible decline in the commitment to an enforcement of military standards. He wrote in his memo. He said he laid out three central areas of concern adherence to standards unit inspections and shaving waivers specifically.
Uh as an all volunteer force, we willingly relinquish a portion of our individual freedoms in order to be part of an elite team. An essential element to being part of this elite team is a high standards we hold as as an institution. Adherence to higher standards of conduct, dress, and appearance, physical fitness, and the observance of customs and courtesies are critical to our identity as military members.
So, that’s what four star General Wilsbach said. So, the General still needs to kind of hook up those sides. So, they’re not in the taking the parents.
So, like, he’s looking good. He’s looking good. Yeah, he’s looking good though.
He he looks like, but you know, you gotta make sure if you’re gonna be calling people out, they’re like, oh, you know, you better act together. You know, don’t don’t let the hair touch the ears cuz you know, you know, II got II got II was II got a failed inspection as I instructed an ATC. So, because my hair, so everything was flawless.
I was I was just man, it was looking good until she was a defender actually. She came and she was finding something to get me off. She came all the way close to me to see if my hair was touching my ear and that was a fail right there.
Oh, you’re gonna look like. Yeah. No, but I’m saying it’s close.
I know. Look at that. Yeah.
And these are probably out of rags right now but no, I’m just saying though, it’s it’s I think it needs to start from top two. Like, they need to. Well, sure.
Yeah. We we’ve had that discussion. That pendulum was gonna swing back and it’s I was gonna I was gonna wait.
I was gonna wait till the end but I’ll ask it now is like, do you think that this whole thing is just gonna produce this mountain, this flood, this avalanche of EO complaints are complaining to whoever they can go to or do you think that it was just people were just waiting for somebody with the force of will of this force star to put it down and go enough of this bullshit. Let’s let’s. It will depend if they’re willing to take a handful of EO complaints and dismiss them.
Yeah. Right. If the people below him are like, you know, that’s bullshit.
I know that’s bullshit. No. Yeah.
Leave. Yeah. You know, throw this complaint away.
Now, the first couple of times that EO complaint sticks. Yeah, it’s done. You might make a different story.
You’re cut. Yeah, you’re undercut. But I think the force has enough power to push this and go guys.
This isn’t about equal opportunity. This is about getting back to being a frickin military and setting the standards the way it’s supposed to be. And I’m hoping.
Yes. But why are they afraid of the the retribution is more. So let’s say they do everything in the processes that the Air Force has set up in the military has set up.
But you know what you can’t control is these things called cell phones and what they do in social media. And so the thing is leadership becomes reactive on the things that get posted on social media and becomes public. That’s true.
And that’s that’s the other thing that they do. It’s like it’s like a balance thing that they have. So maybe everything professionally.
But maybe General Willsbach is actually speaking more to the commanders in the field saying yeah. I’ve got your back. You don’t have to be afraid and stand up and fix the problem.
So do what you think is right. You may get some heat from JAG or whoever they choose to go to. But I’ve got your back.
So and maybe that’s the first guy to go. It would be fun to see. Nobody supported us before.
And I don’t know if anybody could pull it off. I would be fun to see the first random guy that’s heavy or the random guy with a full beard that talks shit online. If some of the leadership was like respond back.
Here’s the rules. He’s out of regs. Yeah.
Good point. Kind of kind of crap. Like you know what? That was social media down quite a bit.
We’ve created that as a population of humans in the United States because the majority of people are becoming so obese. So it’s just not the weight piece of it. Yeah.
Well but but there but I think the biggest thing Eric is that they’re they’re getting away with it because leaders are too afraid to disappoint them because they’ve got they got two conflicting messages in their head and maybe it’s not overtly but the message is out there. It’s like we’re short on people. Don’t be kicking anybody out.
So be extra nice. But then the other message is like that’s not how it is raised in the military. I gotta control these standards.
So they’re conflicted. Well, I’m hoping that’s like you said the four star says I got your back. And that may be all it is right.
Let me finish this out what he said. Let it go. That’s fine.
It’s as long as they’re consistent. So he says over the next month commanders are expected to conduct a multi-layered unit inspection of all assigned military members. He wants open ranks to be held by every unit by July 17th.
It’s like he ain’t fucking around but along with open ranks inspections or along with open ranks uniform inspections a review will include records inspections in which commanders must review all military members personnel records to ensure medical exemptions and religious accommodations are current and valid. Right on. R.A.R. which is religious accommodation requests right.
They can cover shaving and beards as well as certain exemptions from some uniforms and hair rules. R.A.R.s are also the primary route military members have used to request exemptions from taking the COVID-19 vaccine. R.A.R.s are issued by commanders after review of members personal religious beliefs and commitment by a chaplain.
I didn’t know a chaplain has signed off on that too. So who’s the Viking chaplain who’s signing up there? Yeah. Oh did you catch that though? Okay so beards and religious ones but he is like and no vaccine dismissal either.
Right right. So you get no beards and you also get no rights to say no on vaccines. Now there I think there’s another way to fix this and people hate this.
Blues Monday. How I remember that. Because yeah because man I’m telling you if you look frumpy and you look like shitting your blues man that’s like because I know like I know for ATC blues Mondays it was every Monday.
We hated it but you always want to look good in your blues. But it actually made you it forced you to get your uniform. Our everything else like it’s just like you’re looking standards.
See we never experienced that. We had guard mount prior to work every day. You had an NCO looking at you going oh yeah your boots look like shit your shirt’s not ironed it’s not standing at whatever.
Did you do guard mail and like BDUs or were you in like class Bs or both? Depending on the post you have you’re either in blues or in. I suppose if you’re like in Washington you’re going to wear like. Yeah or an honor guard.
Guard mount was whatever uniform you were struck to wear for that position. So. Well here.
As well as we had that kind of thing too at roll call. He would make sure we’re all in the same. Yeah.
In the same cruise and all the crews were made up. But you stood there in your uniform. And they called you out if there was anything.
They called the sergeant at the front of the board. Right. Going along with that let’s talk about the uniform and and I was having this discussion with Joe Schmidt at the at the tap lab.
We got away from that because oh we were just wasting a lot of time showing your boots got these suede boots. We were increasing this. But you know what what we lost there is the attention to detail.
And I didn’t really think about this and I didn’t really like you know like just give it a lot of thought but you know those little things and just paying attention and taking pride just on your uniform. That one thing alone I think does transfer solely to all the other things that you do. Yeah.
By us even relaxing that little by little we ended up relaxing as a military culture on all the other standards. Absolutely. I think that falls on us and and you know like to say get back to basics.
But not that we like because they say oh we’re wasting too much time we’re doing this. That’s from DX services. But and it’s funny you say that because army does it every morning.
Like every morning. You know what I mean. So and and yeah so those little attention to details I think if we were to bring those back in but really thanks people and the leadership what those attention to details and those little things that you’re looking for actually does and builds.
I think you know there’s a thing but we we all of us accept it because I was like oh cool I don’t have to show my boots some more. I gotta make sure my suede boots look good. Oh I don’t have to worry about threes.
I don’t have to do about that. But that transferred to getting relaxed on other things. Were you issued were you issued core frames and in basic one? No.
I would have straight leather. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Me too. You’re core frames. Yeah we all are.
But I think they’re getting core frames now. So I got talked to by a senior airman when I was at 11 Swiss. When I got issued my fight suit I would iron it and I would shave it because you know the the fight suits would get the little.
Oh you spent too much time on your uniform this and that. Yeah I’d get that. I like my uniform looking good.
And like you know after a while like and I’ll be honest after a while it’s like man this is a lot of work in this net and the more people tell me you’re spending too much time. I relax but instead of saying oh that’s awesome right. It’s like that’s cool in your uniform.
I got the opposite right. So you strike me as a guy who would have sewn his pockets shut on. No I would not I’ve never I never did that I would iron my like I made sure everything was like.
Well that pockets like I said there were there were two public two publications that ran this right Air Force Times which is that picture from Willsbuck and then Task and Purpose ran it. And there you know there’s there’s more of an emphasis about the shaving stuff in there but but the I mean the message is clear you know. Hey we’re gonna look at the shaving waivers.
So Task and Purpose they cover it with this picture. I’ve seen I’ve seen worse beers than that that one actually looks clean. I know but they got they they put this on the picture uh under their headline and I was like why is the black get down on shaving waivers.
Why is Don Cheetle Colonel Rhodes from the Marvel universe why is he singled out there? Doesn’t he look like Don? I’m just a little bit I don’t think he does. Yeah thanks but thanks for killing the joke. Yeah I’m already saying you’re wrong.
Yeah but what I’m saying is I used to think uh like his beard it’s according to the shaving waivers it looks what it should look like. Yeah that’s the shaving waiver. Yeah it should look like.
Yeah scraggly. Think about all the civilian companies that now have military people that have separated that come to work looking like some of the people you guys have all worked with with companies and you go did you not look in the fucking mirror and today and see what you’re wearing is inappropriate for my office. All right.
What in the hell? So it’s not just military it’s stepped into every pocket of what we do. Right. It’s too bad.
The civilian world has a problem with that too but absolutely they can just not hire you you know that’s that’s their power. But then you’ll definitely get a complaint there. All right.
You didn’t hire me because you didn’t like my jeans. Come on right or my my freaking shirt that says some poor freaking analogy it shouldn’t be on my shirt. What I can’t wear my hearty jeans into this interview but what’s you know it’s just you don’t like sparkly.
I love the proper stuff right. Well as much as satisfying as that story was to Eric. Now yeah I’m going to give him a story to get his blood pressure back up.
All right so this uh let’s see oh fuck me. Sorry. Yeah I put the rock banner on there.
You’re being very but this is from task and purpose dot com also and the Navy eases career ending rules for sailors who fail to consecutive fitness tests. So sailors careers will no longer be over if they fail back to back fitness tests according to updated U.S. Navy policy. Now instead of automatic marks on their annual evaluation sailors fitness and overall health will be observed and considered by their represented respective commanding officers.
Shut up. Sorry. The change announced by the service in an administrative notice this week essentially puts more discretion in the hands of individual commanding officers with the physical fitness assessment.
The policy went in effect on June 18. So they’re saying instead of kicking you out commander it’s up to you now to make a call on whether to keep the guy in. So I think it depends right.
What’s the reason because I’ve seen some guys are fit. I’m talking about could do the pushups the service that could run and they’re bigger but the waist measurement right like I think the waist measurement was I don’t know how the Navy does that. Yeah I’ve seen some guys that look good all around but unfortunately the waist measurement because they were just bigger guys that well now now hold on we’re not talking about somebody who can pass the fitness test who looks like a bag of donuts because we all know guys like that they can run they shouldn’t be able to run but they can run pushups sit ups and all that stuff but they just don’t look that great.
We’re talking about failing a fitness test. Oh yes all around. Yeah this is you failed you failed your fitness test all right.
So the former policy one failure meant being automatically placed into a mandatory fitness program a second consecutive fitness test failure barred sailors from any promotion or being able to re-enlist but now it removes all that when you enlisted in the Navy. Well I yeah right right boom if you fail too then it goes to the commander and the commander can make an exception he can say look this guy’s working he missed it by you know a minute on his run or something like that he’s good at his job so I’m not I’m not going to boot right now I’m not going to put any of those restrictions on him however you got to show some progress so that’s one that’s the good side right the bad side is like nope you fail kicking you out so it’s completely up to the commander right yeah and you know what it all boils down to right Navy’s low on people right yeah those ships are balanced man you need some fatties to balance that thing out well and I think I think they really could strike there yeah and I believe when they really get strict on the standard stuff the easiest way to get people out uh well it was always a force shaping tool right yeah it always was a force shaping tool um but Jake you said they got rid of that I don’t remember when they got rid of that for the Air Force because I remember it was basically two and you’re gonna get a referral EPR which means essentially you’re gonna you’re gonna be booted or you’re not going to be allowed to re-enlist at least it’s up to the commanders now it’s in the air there’s a matrix and it says recommended but commander has these options so you can fail four times and still use get a lot they don’t have to kick you out but the moment you you can’t play favorites because if you do like a lor for one person you have to do it for everyone else and it’s just like one of those things so like the first person that that commander like they’re gonna set that president for that individual it’s gonna be for everyone else well I tell you the one thing about the fitness test failure that used to drive me insane and it would probably drive most of you guys insane is that you’re standing there you know your people you know this guy failed but he gets called up for some award and you’re like why are we giving this guy an award and he fucking failed his fit can’t pass this fit test right there’s a degree of with that how many but how many people did you see that may have failed a PT test but we’re running circles on that not physically work-wise and everything else around those people actually deserve recognition for the work that they were doing no they don’t you’re not meeting you gotta be complete in my the way I was raised you gotta be so complete no okay so you could be a complete soldier but then I’m saying there’s there’s an argument because there’s some people that look great and here’s the thing is there’s people that physically look great and they were pieces of shit that work but they always got recognized for those physical accolades that also goes nuts because they were like the model person that they always wanted to put up front yeah but then I know I would not want to work with them all right and I would rather work with the person that just failed the PT test that I know we’re taking care of their people doing everything they could have you guys heard of the whole person concept yeah the whole person yeah but that award wasn’t for the whole person concept that award just for your right for for getting a hundred on your PT test what’s that award for well sure that’s it right what what ops crew of the quarter award for I’ve seen for the ops I’ve seen an airman up stuff when airman of the quarter who failed a fit test I’m like now that that’s right there they aren’t the whole airman of the quarter I agree with you on that yeah that’s bullshit they want somebody you ever see somebody get promoted who had a fit test failure yeah I was one of them I think they’re promoted I’ve had to be followed before right yeah he got skipped over right so yeah but we all see that’s what Marty’s saying he’s like that’s the things that eat away at the unit morale you know it’s like oh this you know our command wants to give awards so bad and it’s like don’t give this guy an award sir you know I mean I know he’s he’s done great this quarter at least but he also failed a fit test this quarter they’re like no I’m I’m a war I think there’s ways there’s ways people will see that people will but there’s also ways to recognize them by just thank you know for the work that they’re doing stuff well sure that’s fine but that’s why I’m saying no but you stand them up there and make an airman of the quarter and everybody knows he just failed his fit test no but I’ve seen the opposite where they want to give them work but the person that gets like Jake was saying the hundred percent stuff like that but I know me I would not want to work with those people because they’re there so and that’s the thing sometimes in the units you’ll see people that were all fitness all this and they were just like the the person that people they use want to put up from but you know they know like their focus was different then you had the people that always worked a lot right and then you had the people in the middle that try to be the whole person conscious but find those people too yeah those are very rare so I think it’s a balance yeah and usually a balance is unbalanced stuff like as soon as you do it once you’re invalid from there on out everybody in the unit knows it you know and like oh they’re gonna give this guy an award he just fucking failed his fit test you know or the guy that got an EPR as good as yours and he failed his and I fell as mine well the Air Force so after I don’t know you know the Air Force actually had a PT meets or doesn’t meet that’s it yeah and then all the other blocks were different so it doesn’t meet it doesn’t meet and that’s it you know that but that that followed me uh like a few years when I failed and said did not meet it actually called me two three different boards so it took me a while tech sergeant was my favorite rank I held on to that one for 10 years same with teapots well he liked it so much he came back to it yeah yeah but I’m just saying that it’s uh and I’m not saying that just because like I had PT issues but just I would see I would see just like there was a like the PT monitors and the yeah like the PTLs they always seem at the time when that Air Force was very heavy on PT very favored by the commanders well sure because that’s an so that’s an easy one right yeah I mean look at this guy he can run forever let’s uh yeah I mean that’s easy one you should have started your career out playing football he’d have been in great shape you’d have never you never had to take a PT test yeah but Eric to be fair you did the freaking bike test yeah that’s a good point they made you your fat neck and they did the bicycle okay listen go ride that bike you’re right but cops also had an internal PT test oh we ran mile and a half even if you weren’t you know the bike tests yeah that’s a bunch of crap but we had our own trust her all right uh good discussion oh that was good I like I like the passion I’m glad to see the question is coming back man I really am well yeah sure maybe like Jake said that pendulum has swung and maybe it’s time to kind of like let’s bring that back to center you know and and some of these moves now the Navy’s doing it for retention the Navy does ballast hey guys a quick quick how much of automation do you think plays in our physical abilities anymore the fact that we are a force that does a lot of desk stuff that’s a good point I mean look at that we’re not physical anymore look at the other stuff right I mean that drones is an emerging uh yeah job right you don’t have to do anything well and that’s why everyone gets so down you know I get all these Facebook things you say the wrong thing and they’re like oh space what do you know and it’s like well you know we had we had that discussion I think it was last year right playing devil’s advocate it’s like does this guy really need to be at a ranger level fitness when he’s pulling 12-hour shifts uh you know doing uh intel work for oh I bet you they got a hundred percent of their PT test yeah and promote you see where I’m going with Marty okay so here’s your tab holder but now but here’s the thing the thing the thing about uh so this you know still staying with PT I remember you know 21 years there’s time to say hey we want you to be fit so you will during the duty day be allowed to go work out then they took that away fit to fight used to be the bottom and then they took that away so yeah I mean right it’s like hey just fit to fit to shift how about that fit to pull shift right Marty well it’s interesting on shift we barely if we had enough crew members we could go use the gym that was you’re kind of screwing and it was all shift dependent right at ATC man we did squadron level and like wing level runs and PT yeah those are cool like we did the morning 5ks we did all that kind of crap because they they allotted for that time no but at the same time Eric I mean what you brought up is like yeah I mean obviously space force doesn’t need to be at the fitness level as an 11 Bravo infantry in the army however going back to General Willsbach he’s saying this is the institution and this is what you need to conform to so yeah fitness is part of it yeah tough shit I agree yeah I dig that you know I get that I agree too okay all right uh let’s get to our last story here so if you are one of those types of people who worry about things beyond your control which my wife is my wife is very worried about everything beyond her control right well then this next story should give you some fresh material to keep you up at night with all the anxiety you can muster so from space.com all right a Florida family files claim with NASA after ISS space junk crashes into their home now I searched and searched I could find no pictures of this how but which was disappointing NASA has a claim on its hands after a space junk crashed through Alejandro Otero’s seaside home in Naples, Florida how’d I do that okay the incident occurred on March 8th as debris tore through the roof and two floors of his family home nearly hitting his son NASA has since confirmed the debris came from a 2.9 ton palette of used batteries jettison from the International Space Station in March of 2021 so there’s the palette being jettisoned now it had a link to the story of this in 2021 and they’re like hey the ISS just got lighter it just got rid of almost three tons of batteries and these should be in orbit for several years so they had a guy in that story is like I don’t know like four years this is probably going to deorbit and it’s so dense it might cause problems wow it won’t burn up yeah yeah so 2021 it only took three years and that thing deorbited like a did you imagine if that killed somebody well that’s what that’s why he’s bringing the lawsuit I would too holy gosh you were talking about space junk the other day and Eric just for reference I literally just looked up the most recent satellite catalog and there’s 60,090 cataloged pieces and a lot of them are smaller but there are some two points they’re actual cataloged pieces yeah I mean you don’t worry about space junk falling you don’t hear like a whistling incoming that may give you five seconds to dive out of the way this is just like oh shit it’s here it’s there right so NASA has since confirmed the debris came from a 2.9 ton of pallets of used batteries jettison from the ISS in March of 2021 the structure was expected to burn up completely in Earth’s atmosphere but it did not Micah Nguyen Worthy in a statement from the law firm representing the family points out that under the space liability convention NASA would be liable had the debris cause damage in another country but they but there’s nothing for the US so NASA could be liable for another country nothing for the US but hold on it’s the ISS so NASA could be like it’s not American the Russians let go of that well they could claim no you could this one they proudly claimed was theirs when they jettisoned in 2021 I think it was all NASA logos all on the side and NASA was here copper fun on the logo that’s not ours so are you telling me like demolished a small family in Mexico NASA would be like here’s a million no I didn’t look up what the space liabilities convention is but at least they were copped to it but in the in the US they’re like yeah sorry about that buddy you know it’s not gonna happen so this law firm is trying to bring this this lawsuit to make that point and maybe change the law the incidence has the potential to set a precedent for governments and private space companies in terms of how compensation could be handled for victims of similar incidents in the future though their damage was less severe than that caused at the Otero home several other reports of crashing space debris have occurred in the past year as well all Boeing related all Boeing related including including portions of a SpaceX dragon trunk found in Canada so this was found in Canada farmers like small car fucker that landed on he’s definitely got left nipple cancer that’s for sure all the debris and stuff hanging off that and a piece of an Indian space resource organization rocket landing on a beach in Australia look at that motherfucker wow man this stuff’s just dropping out of the sky I mean there’s a bunch of nerdy scientists like I thought that was supposed to burn out the beach I was said hey thank you god I actually got a home it fell from the sky and that’s all this year that’s it you know these are instances just this year so uh do that again or say that number again how much is up there Jake 60,000 that’s that’s the number of things that are in the satellite so there’s right now much potential for more of these but Eric if you look at that that Kester syndrome is a theoretical syndrome where you’re worried that everything on low earth orbit one catastrophic event and the amount of debris around the earth could technically lock us earth bound wow that’s that’s theory what is that called Kestler syndrome I remember when when China launched and fucking blew up their low earth orbit they created 40,000 pieces of oh yeah right but those are little man those are never going to reach the oh no it’s but it’s that but it goes to that syndrome because like one piece but here’s that’s another piece I’m which I wish it but here’s where I do want to curse the engineers they sent a 2.9 ton palette of dense ass yeah exactly it wasn’t a freaking it wasn’t a shield or a fairing this is like the thing that you can make and then what material is made out of too now they’re poisoning the earth thank you like well I mean you can worry about the earth in a couple years hopefully it doesn’t cave your head in in your bed at night start wearing a hard hat hey I just I just hope it’s quick I just hope it’s quick it’s like I hope it just doesn’t get me in the middle just like to make it quick well that would be it yeah that would be it so so to all our listeners and viewers there you go I send you off with sweet dreams nice Eric take us home with some US military history fellas like I’m gonna make it quick I got two of them for you though so I’m gonna discuss both so just real quick all right so we never forget our own so this is the 25th anniversary of June 25th 1996 the cobar bombing a tanker Raisey was 96 1996 a tanker truck loaded with 25,000 pounds of explosives rips through the US Air Force military housing complex cobar towers in Daharan Saudi Arabia killing 19 US airmen and wounding nearly 500 others so I just wanted to bring that up we don’t want to forget our own it’s a good one don’t want to forget our own so the other piece of history I thought was very interesting for tonight was June 25th 1876 General George Armstrong Custer discovers a small Indian village on the banks of the Little Bighorn River oh my god yes Custer confidently ordered his troops to attack not realizing that he was confronting the Maine Lakota and Cheyenne encampment yeah a large warrior force most estimates range from 1200 to 1500 led by Crazy Horse descended upon Custer’s regiment and within hours about a third of the seventh cavalry including General Custer and all 210 men or so men under his direct command were massacred the only survivor of that little massacre was a horse named Comanche appropriate the horse was Comanche but yeah so Custer’s last stand or 1876 for Jake and Marty did you guys remember Phil Miller yeah yeah he was at Cobar right he was at Cobar Jack because he had that purple heart and I asked him about it and it was telling me the story of how he was going in and out and just like you know how that happened so that’s just crazy like yeah for me it was just like wow you were there so that’s good that’s two good ones actually horrible day yes that was a tough day back then but you did redeem yourself because Marty was a little hesitant on the two I mean when he brought up Cobar Towers I was like oh shit that’s a big one he’s like well I got one that’s and I was like and then when he said 18 and I was like even back well let me guess I had no idea French fought 12 people over beaver belts that’s what Marty was thinking that’s a good nobody cares about the beaver pelt revenge well they were American beaver pelts beaver pelt maning of 1823 nobody can I couldn’t resist about the most flamboyant frickin colonel in the frickin yeah that’s true you know we should have General Petty give us a battle analysis of that because it is very interesting and that how he was waiting for his third battalion I think to support but they were slow and getting there they never got there and anyway so custard which one was it the 21st commander that dressed up like custard or oh dominate the high ground was it Colonel Crocker is that who it was oh that infamous you said that was so oh my god that was so we sent it to it really worked we sent that to you didn’t we uh-uh dressed up like a custard he was trying to make dominate the high ground yeah it was dominate the high ground I thought the best part and and he was way into it and they were on horses with cavalry uniforms now the funniest part to me is I guess that’s his D.O. or whoever it is with him because there’s another guy with him and he could just as the video goes he is like this I do not want yes sir we should dominate the high ground it’s so bad it’s so bad but if you get it yeah send it to send it to me because it was like the 21st model was it like something the high frontier or what was it yeah I don’t remember why what the reason was that they put that out but it was it was pretty damn funny it was pretty you know when I was research custard here’s a just a little piece of what if for you you know how most of the bodies were massacred and and desecrated cut open arrows custard’s body was not he was killed by two bullets either one were fatal but that was it he was not scalped and he was not maimed and he wasn’t cut open or you know how they were cutting off the genitals yeah yeah and stuff none of that occurred to his body was that a respect thing I’m not I’m not sure too small they couldn’t determine it right yeah could determine pretty pretty crazy though all right that’s a good one man I think we came out just around an hour that’s good I put that Crawford YouTube in there oh nice yeah you got to watch that Eric watch that one it’s hard to get through because it’s so like they push this out to everyone it was crazy Ed’s auto sale come on down it crazy Ed’s we’ll put you in any car so come on over we’re the 23rd space board whoever tried to talk him out of that was like now man there’s no talking the old man out of this he’s going full bora this thing man how many hours were spent on that thing all right right just so he came back in find some uniform that fit him and the horses and the land and the camera crew and yeah whatever they’ll say right and I’m sure he burst into that Monday morning staff and he’s like you won’t believe the gold that I just made this weekend Eric fire it up man you should share it I did I was looking at it you know what though this wasn’t about cust it was custard but it wasn’t that little big one it was Gettysburg it’s definitely not yeah it’s not custard but I was just oh it’s not Gettysburg it’s a it’s it’s an abortion it’s well in the video it comes up with Gettysburg in the title right it’s just terrible it’s trash I don’t know what ever happened to him after that but maybe we should do the find that out so like a bitter old long bearded guy and he’s like let me tell you I was on top of the world dominating until that damn YouTube got me until my Dio talk me into it he set me up he came in and he had me at the hat have you seen that hat? those tassels I mean they got me and you can get the Dio we can find out who the Dio was get him on the show and then find out what was really going on oh yeah yeah oh and then we have him in two separate times and see if they used to do this yeah well he’s funny yeah there’s another skit in the making right there all right fellas let’s call in depth on behalf of all of us here I’d like to thank you for listening today please like share subscribe and let us know how we did in the comments and make sure next week that you are not late for changeover little mule ones man thanks for the week and everyone listening thanks for watching and listening we’ll see you next week right off dude I should have brought a box of deltas when I logged on oh you got me you should have brought a box of deltas